Topic: Zelda's Wii U-Turn to NX

Too bad(not really) NX is a micro console. You'll just have to be happy that the game is on Wii U with the GamePad

I don't think anyone was offended. It's more that "Zelda is moving to NX" kinda suggests that "Zelda was delayed for NX". An idea which is definitely going to rub some people the wrong way. And I honestly don't think Nintendo would delay Zelda U for that reason, purely for commercial reasons. If Nintendo could have Zelda U out now they would. Pushing it back a few months? Maybe. A Year? Definitely not.

But as I said on the previous page that's not my issue with the theory. Whether it's the issue other people have with it or not I don't care. I don't buy the theory because it assumes the NX is a traditional home console that's launching in 2016 and is similar enough to the Wii U that a port is trivial. All three lined up for Twilight Princess, only one did for Skyward Sword. There's a fair chance that none of them could line up for Zelda U.

My point is anything is possible. There's no hard evidence for either side right now. Zelda could very well be a launch title for the NX, or it could be Wii U's swansong...or both!

There's still no denying that Wii U's graphics are up to par, and the only people who think NX is Nintendo's next home console, think that Wii U is unable to run things like Kingdom Hearts III or CoD Black Ops Iii. There's a lot of misinformation when it comes to missing 3rd party games, sales, etc.

If we already know Wii U can run these new games, and console power is the main reason why people think NX is coming, then it's already a contradiction to think it will be a home console to "outgun" the PS4's graphic power. That's besides that PS4 owners still wouldn't care if a Nintendo console beats out PS4's graphics. That's already been proven since the PS1 & 2 days, if the same fans are there, which they supposedly are, and I personally know people who haven't chosen any other console besides Playstation.

Thinking NX is a home console is like saying Nintendo needs to to release a Newer 3DS to compete against PS Vita, when they just released New 3DS and somehow smartphones are still "killing" Nintendo, so they need to release a tablet or something. Blah blah. I'm not amused.

So on that note it's not a handheld either?

@LztheQuack: Aye anything is possible Who knows you might be right!

Without knowing what 'NX' actually is, I think you're getting quite ahead of yourself. We know that it involves new hardware and a form of service directly from Nintendo; but this actually doesn't tell us a whole lot. Nintendo are still committed to supporting the Wii platform, but for the near future this be through emulation. The only conflict here is that the NX is rumoured to not have an optical drive, so data transfers down downloaded titles and an eShop would likely suffice.

But, it wouldn't surprise me at all if the new Zelda title was released 'for' the Wii U, but was still be compatible on a new NX console just as with future Wii U titles. I think they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they abandoned the current-gen (and V.C.) titles so soon.

@Emperor-P: It's not rumoured to not include an optical drive. Nintendo filed a patent for a gaming console without an optical drive, people ''speculated'' that it would be inplemented in the NX. I'd hardly call that a rumour. It's more like baseless speculation, as Nintendo (and any other company for that matter) files patents all the time, and the vast majority are never used in actual products.

Most rumors are baseless anyway. Heck, the term itself is vague

I agree with the whole "nobody will really care what people said" thing. I don't get much time to check this forum anymore, much less post on it. I won't be losing any sleep over proving "soandso1970" on Nintendolife was wrong about the next Zelda game.

That being said, Nintendo isn't misleading anyone. And that's exactly my point. Their language about the game is very precise and, technically, not misleading at all. It is coming out for Wii U. Certain Amiibo will work with the Wii U version. Nothing there is incorrect or misleading. It's coming, and it's going to be fantastic.

It's also going to launch with the NX, which is a fantastic business move. And as a Nintendo fan, I'm very happy about all of this.

You're not going to be very happy if the NX is a handheld...

I can get people speculating Zelda U as an NX title, but why are some people so aggressively trying to push a NX port as reality?
We know absolutely nothing definitely aside from rumors and assumptions based off potentially bad wording. DQXI potentially coming to system confirms nothing since it could just be the 3DS version or an equivalent rather than the PS4 version everyone has convinced themselves to be.

@Octane: its apparent we will never agree on any of this because my arguments are based on reading between the lines, and yours are based on things like "that wasnt EXACTLY what was said" "absence of evidence isnt evidence of absence" "they COULD be doing something else" which are all so easily applied to a company like Nintendo that is so vague about almost everything it says.

I wish I could recall when it was (Im almost sure it was the early part of the e3 dig event) but the speaker (Reggie?) slipped and worded things in a way that essentially assured me the NX was a home console. It was something along the lines of "And it will not take until the nx, it will happen for wii u" (not referring to zelda, lol, i forget what it was) but anyone paying attention while watching that statement could be assured the nx was the wii u's successor.

As far as the common "blue ocean" types never coming back, im sure thats true for some of them, but i highly doubt thats the case for 90 million people. There are still plenty to be won back. Theres a huge gaming populartion out there, as the ps4s success shows, and many of them can afford 2 systems.

There's also the fact that Nintendo themselves said that it won't replace Wii U or 3DS. They said it won't replace anything, AND they announced it with DeNA and putting software on mobile. That already throws all the rumors out of the window, if you are actually willing to accept their own announcement for the system. That's besides that we could also put together that DeNA is for their mobile sector and their effort to improve the Nintendo account system.
I would say it's hardly a coincidence that they announced all that at the same time.

@rallydefault I REALLY think you're looking into this a bit too much.

I don't want to sound rude, but I believe what you mean is "My arguments are based on jumping to conclusions with little to no evidence, and just making assumptions and declaring them true."

Nintendo also said the DS wouldn't replace the Game Boy Advance.

The word "console" was used, which could just as easily mean "Handheld game console," as it could "home game console."

But who's to say that even if it was a handheld it couldn't run Zelda U?

There's a good rant by Neil De Grasse Tyson about UFOs that you can find on the internet which I think is relevant. Essentially his point was that when you say UFO you are admitting that you don't know what it is. You don't then go from that state of pure ignorance to concluding that it's ET flying above your car giving you an air-show. Admittedly the prospect of Zelda U on the NX is far more likely than ET but a lot of things still have to line up for it to happen. You don't go from ignorance to pretending you know everything as some in this thread have. I'd argue that because we literally know nothing the safer prediction is to assume that things aren't going to line up neatly for Zelda U and the NX.

I wonder what on earth they could possibly say that would convince you that it isn't on NX. Because the only evidence you have to go on here is that they haven't specifically gone on camera and slowly spelled it out for you. I would also think of Nintendo's actions as misleading if it turns out that they have delayed Zelda U because of the NX. That's the issue I have. Even worse now that they're trying to push out Twilight Princess HD which markets the Wii U as the "Zelda box". If they go out and now say that Zelda U is also on the NX and you didn't need a Wii U? That's a bit too tricky.

So again, the only way I see this happening is if:

• NX is a traditional home console (not confirmed)
• NX is launching within a few months of the Zelda U launch (we still know nothing, this is looking unlikely)
• NX is architecturally similar enough to the Wii U that porting is easy (I would have assumed they were going x86)
• People who got the Wii U just for Zelda don't feel cheated. Cross buy, earlier launch on Wii U or similar