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Octane

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Tyranexx

Tbh I find the downfall timeline to be the most convoluted. It's still a bit difficult for me to believe that ALttP Link is the same Link in the Oracle games (Again, some continuity issues here), or that ALBW Link is the same as TFH Link.

Some of the games do serve as a sequel, more or less. Zelda 1/II are linked (at least manual-wise? I think....), OoT and MM are linked, and at the VERY LEAST WW and PH are linked. I'd say ST is linked to the previous two as well.

Plus, there's that certain spoiler halfway through WW that seems like more than just a reference to OoT, but maybe I'm just reading into it too much.

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FaeKnight

Tyranexx wrote:

Tbh I find the downfall timeline to be the most convoluted. It's still a bit difficult for me to believe that ALttP Link is the same Link in the Oracle games (Again, some continuity issues here), or that ALBW Link is the same as TFH Link.

Some of the games do serve as a sequel, more or less. Zelda 1/II are linked (at least manual-wise? I think....), OoT and MM are linked, and at the VERY LEAST WW and PH are linked. I'd say ST is linked to the previous two as well.

Plus, there's that certain spoiler halfway through WW that seems like more than just a reference to OoT, but maybe I'm just reading into it too much.

As I recall (use to own Oracle of Seasons) the Manuel specifically mentioned that the game takes place after A Link to the Past. Granted, the ending implies it was all a dream as I recall. Twilight Princess also implies that it's the "Adult Link" timeline with the cursed soldier that trains you being the former Adult Link.

Considering the original Legend of Zelda game had the setup of "Ganon has already won and has been in power for some time", it being the first game in the "Link Failed" timeline makes sense. A Link to the Past I always thought was set several centuries after Zelda 1 and 2 since Hyrule had been rebuilt a great deal, and there were towns (and ruins).

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Tyranexx

I unfortunately can't speak for a lot of the lore found in older manuals since my first game was Twilight Princess; I have a few of the older games physically, but I've had to settle with playing many of them on the VC.

I didn't mean to imply that I don't buy the downfall timeline at all, just that I'm not sure that its order always makes complete sense. I've for the most part bought that Link's Awakening was connected to A Link to the Past, which in turn is implied to be connected to the Oracle games with how a linked game file ends. One of the issues I have with the Oracle/ALttP connection is how Zelda doesn't seem to "know" Link and reintroduces herself in a linked Oracle game.

I have few problems with the Child timeline and think that a lot of the game placement there makes sense. The only outlier in my eyes is Four Swords Adventure since I feel like that game can almost stand on its own in any of the timelines; the only catch would be that it would have to occur after the first Four Swords game and Minish Cap.

I have hardly any issues with the adult timeline, and I played those games in reverse order!

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FaeKnight

Link's Adventure is a direct sequel to the original game. Presumably it's the quest to clean up the last loose threads from Legend of Zelda 1 and is set a few years later, considering there's actual villages in that game but not in Zelda 1.

If Breath of the WIld is set in the Link Failed timeline, it implies that Ganon returned sometime after the last game in that timeline, and was defeated using high magi-technology and LInk's then current reincarnation. Then didn't reincarnate or break free (whichever it was) for almost 10,000 years. Which is interesting.

That said, I wonder if Hyrule Warriors is included in the official timeline, and if so where?

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shadow-wolf

While some parts of the timeline seem hastily put together (downfall timeline, anyone?), it seems pretty clear that every 3D Zelda game with the exception of Breath of the Wild followed the timeline carefully. Ocarina of Time established the splitting of timelines, Majora's Mask was a direct sequel, Wind Waker was set in the adult timeline and referred to events from Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess was set in the Child Timeline and addressed what happened after Link told Zelda about Ganondorf at the end of Ocarina of Time, and Skyward Sword told the story of the formation of the Master Sword. All of these pretty neatly fit into a timeline if you ask me.

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Trajan

@Tyranexx Why can't you play them on the original hardware?

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Tyranexx

@Trajan: I have in some cases, but it's often cheaper to just grab them off the eShop versus tracking down a physical copy and system in some cases. I've owned Nintendo handhelds since the GBC but didn't have any access to a Nintendo TV console until the Wii.

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