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Topic: [XC2 SPOILERS] How is Pneuma's raw physical strength in-universe?

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NinGem

DoodleBaub wrote:

@TheJGG

Thanks for the tip!

It’s still possible that the devs just had to cut her more interesting abilities due to time. I remember hearing that the game was rushed in development, but I’m not 100% on that. The lag spikes the game can have point to “yes” though.

If they ever make another Xenoblade game, they’ll likely bring all of the protagonists back for the DLC. It’s entirely possible that they may show off some of the powers she couldn’t show in XC2. Inversely, they may also solidify the fact that she may not be very strong at all canonically. That future DLC will likely give us all of the answers, and we just have to wait for it to come out.

I doubt there would be new DLC at this point.

NinGem

NinGem

TheJGG wrote:

@DoodleBaub Very fair points, it's a shame her abilities are seemingly so contrived.

Maybe the creators didn't fulfill the potential of this character. Hopefully, she'll return in a way.

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NinGem

DoodleBaub

@NinGem

I was referring to the possible DLC a future Xenoblade game may have. One that brings back all of the protagonists from the previous games.

DoodleBaub

NinGem

@DoodleBaub Ah, I see. Actually, the best way to bring back all the protagonists is through a Warriors game, which also tends to be more action-oriented than the main games.

NinGem

DoodleBaub

@NinGem

I don’t know... FEW and HW are fine, but the only good Nintendo Warriors game I’ve seen is Age of Calamity, and even then that was only because Nintendo was so heavily involved. I doubt they’d be as involved with this, so the games might return to having the same problems they had before. I’d hate for the backlog problem to return once again after it disappeared from AoC.

Plus, I’d say only XC2 really aligns itself with the Warriors style. The gameplay and character designs are very flashy, which is perfect for a Warriors game. But can you imagine Reyn doing something flashy? Or anyone else from XC1/X other than Shulk or Melia for that matter? Blades have the benefit of having their attacks create giant balls of light, but the other XC games aren’t too much like that.

DoodleBaub

NinGem

@DoodleBaub There's always mobile gaming too, assuming you don't mind microtransactions. Whether or not FE Heroes is a solid app is up for debate.

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NinGem

VoidofLight

Honestly, I'd rather not have a xenoblade mobile game. The gacha mechanics in Xenoblade 2 were already sort of annoying, so I'd dread seeing what paid gacha mechanics would be like in a mobile game. Not to mention, mobile games in general just don't interest me in the slightest.

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Matt_Barber

I loathe microtransactions and gacha mechanics with a passion. XC2 had more than enough of the latter for my tastes, although at least you only had to farm crystals rather than spend real money.

What I'd really like is for them to bring back Project X Zone, as that had a far better format for a crossover game. I know the key people behind the games have since moved on from Monolith though, so it's not likely to happen, but I can dream.

Matt_Barber

NinGem

@VoidofLight Earlier, I didn't know about this. That's a scrappy mechanic that considerably mars XC2 even though you don't pay real money for core crystals. I'd rather just spend in-game currency on things directly, or unlock characters.

Anyway, let's all agree that Pneuma chose not to use her full power anywhere since she didn't want to risk hurting her friends or destroying things unintentionally. Like how Akuma (SF) holds back his power since he has some ethical standards.

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NinGem

DoodleBaub

@NinGem

As a person that played FEH for almost 4 years I can say that Xenoblade Heroes would die a quick death and probably do more harm than good to the series. I’m pretty sure the only reason why FEH has lasted as long as it has is because of the sheer amount of games and playable characters the series has. Xenoblade has 3 games and around 50-60ish playable characters if you count the blades. Xenoblade Heroes would have a TON of variants, and that’s not gonna keep people interested for long. I still remember the FEH community’s harsh reactions every time a character started getting too many variants. Xenoblade Heroes would have to deal with that from the beginning, which doesn’t sound fun for either side. If the game ever comes out and survives for more than 6 months, it’ll 100% be because of even more sexualized designs and a disgusting monetization strategy that forces players to spend tons of money to get their “Sling Bikini Pyra” unit.

I agree that Pneuma probably didn’t use all of her powers, but I still don’t think she’s anywhere near as strong as y’all are assuming. Ignoring the fact that she didn’t use her supposed creation powers for anything interesting at all, she died from an explosion that looks weaker than any of Zanza’s attacks in XC1 and even at her best she can only keep her form for so long. I still believe her power to “bend reality to the whims of her imagination” referred to the fact that her attacks can be of any elements she wants, and the fact that her base stats improved. Even her ability to move at the speed of light is debatable, as you don’t need to match someone’s speed to stand a chance. It’s totally believable for someone to beat a person twice as fast as them, or even faster than that. It’s not even unlikely most of the time tbh. Maybe a bump to her max speed was enough to make her Foresight ability useful again. The game didn’t explain her powers well enough, so both low and high assumptions are just as likely to be right.

DoodleBaub

NinGem

Regardless of the story, I don't believe she's permanently dead, just split into two beings with separate bodies. (Pyra and Mythra). Maybe if Rule of Cool demands it, Pneuma could someday come back to life stronger, with a new Conduit and some kind of fusion dance. But one can only speculate.

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NinGem

VoidofLight

I don't think there'd ever be a new conduit.

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