Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Tasuki "Stop with the gimmicks like Motion Controls and touch screen controllers".

So why does the PS4 have that touch-pad and why was the Move recently resold for full price to be used with VR?

Actually, what USES the touch pad? Its terrible for the keyboard and its just a replacement button in some games. And what uses the light bar beyond Until Dawn which you can just put on a table?

All the other points are valid though.

@bezerker99
Well to be fair most of the things you're complaining about seem to be just you grasping at straws. Some is annoying but understandable. For example the complaints about spin-offs? Other M and Happy Home Designer were good games they just weren't the versions of those games people wanted. And the systems they released on already had the versions people wanted at the time. And a lot of the other stuff you complained about was Wii U stuff after the point when it was clear they were shifting resources over to the Switch. Amiibo Festival? I'm willing to bet the HD Animal Crossing game shifted over to the Switch.

Then you list a lot of stuff that I just plain-old disagree with. Smash Bros and Splatoon as negatives? Really? Ok, there's no F-Zero but why does anyone care when Fast Racing Neo is a thing? And aren't we forgetting some of the other stuff they brought back this generation? We got a Kid Icarus and Luigi's Mansion on the 3DS for crying out loud. Remasters of four Zelda games. We got NES Remix and we also got Mario Maker. I guess people have a very short term memory about positive things.

The storage on the Wii U? I never understood why people complained about that so much. Not long after I got mine I plugged an old 250GB portable HDD in the back. It was never an issue. At least you can upgrade the storage as easily as that unlike some consoles that don't support USB expansion. While we're here, the 3DS supports SD cards while the Vita has proprietary memory cards. So why does Nintendo get so much crap for this? I never understood this.

Anyways, I guess the fact that I think this is all nitpicking and you think this is all legit criticism? That's why I'm firmly on the hype train and you're jumping on a Nintendo forum at the 11th hour broadcasting why you're not hyped......

@MarcelRguez Don't get into arguments with jump, it's not worth it. Just read his signature.

To be fair, I think the issue many have is forced gimmicks. People don't complain about the touch pad because those who don't like it don't have to use it (speaking of such gimmicks - the worst Sony example has to be the Vita touch pads!).

It seems we'll have motion control in the joycons, but I doubt it'll be forced as it would limit the handheld aspect.

@Buizel But not like they use to back in the days. Where was EA games in the later Wii U life span? Where was Overwatch that game would have been perfect for the Wii U, Heartstone. Why didn't have GTA V or Sleeping Dogs on the Wii U. The last CoD game they had was Black Ops 2. How bout FFXV The Kingdom Hearts Collection. I can go on.

Arrrgh only four hours to go (appreciate)!!! I wonder how hectic it is behind the scenes in Japan right now!?

Rumor has it that Nintendo is developing a new Zelda for the Switch.

LIES!!!!! ALL LIES!!!!

Well you could, but you'd be ignoring the elephant in the room. Hate to break it to you but the Wii U didn't sell very well at all. This goes for the complaints about third parties AND the complaints about Nintendo franchises that skipped the platform. Did you really expect companies to throw money at a system that was selling as poorly as that? It sucked to be a person who owned the platform but you can't blame them.

No true Scotsman. I think it's a bit rich to excuse the whine like that when Super Mario Maker, the one game that "forces" you to use the Wii U's gimmick, is the only game nobody complains about. I don't think people have any sort of rationale to why they complain. They just want to heap the blame on something.

@Tasuki Not to mention the AMD card they used from the gamecube to WiiU which was outdated for current gen games.

@skywake I never asked for 4 Zelda remakes. None of those Zelda games needed remaking imo.

Kid Icarus is virtually impossible to play if you are left-handed, like me.

And i don't have a PC so I have never had an external HDD just lyin' around. So, i paid $349.99 for the Wii U and then i have to drop 70-80 more bucks for storage? LOL

@bezerker99 who the heck told you that it would cost that much? I got a 500 gig drive for under thirty.

@faint i wish i had you advising me then back in the day. A person i know said 2TB was the way to go....and those arent 30 bucks. And i liked the idea of having that much storage. It was 'my bad' for forgetting there were cheaper options.

@bezerker99 I download nearly all my games and I have a fairly big collection,i haven't even used up half of my 500gb.I could have had a 1TB drive for less than ten pound more than the 30 I paid but I knew most of it would go unused so went with the 500.It might be more of an issue with the Switch though with it likely only using SD cards and game sizes being larger.

Well ok but not everything has to be specifically for you. If I was to apply this mentality to PC gaming I'd complain that Doom gives me a bit of motion sickness. Ignoring entirely the obvious fact that it's an amazing game. Or I'd complain that the Witcher 3 is a thing because I'm personally not really interested in that sort of game. Or the numinous HD remasters of classics I don't really want to play again.

But I don't because I realise that some stuff isn't specifically for me. Some stuff might get critical acclaim but not be my cup of tea. Some stuff might be targeted to a slightly different market. The fact that that stuff exists is not a negative especially when for a large portion of consumers that's the reason they're on that platform. "I don't like Splatoon", well damn, I think you're part of a very small minority there

Well ok, but they opened up the USB ports and allowed you to attach storage. Unlike the PS4 which only gives you full replacement as an upgrade path. A process that quite frankly most consumers aren't going to be willing to follow. And anyways, do you think Sony is giving you that original HDD for free?

Both have their negatives but IMO if you were to rank all three consoles in terms of how they managed storage? I'd put Nintendo second and Sony a distant third. I think the constant complaining about this has always been unwarranted. As I said, people just want to find something to complain about.

@skywake But one can argue that if the Wii U had better third party support it wouldn't have sold so poorly. Not having those third party games was a major factor it didn't sell well. I know Nintendo fans that wouldn't have bought a PS4 or an Xbox One if the Wii U had Madden on it, and I am sure there are others out there in the same boat.

@Tasuki
Platforms don't magically have a full library of games in the first year. The Wii U did get a reasonable amount of support very early on. It only started to fall off a cliff when the Wii U itself was clearly not gaining any momentum. Consumers were waiting on first party system sellers before they'd buy the system. Third parties waited for people to buy the system before they'd invest. It was a vicious cycle.

It's the same sort of feedback loop that's working for the PS4 in the opposite direction. It's just how platforms live or die. The Wii U just happened to be one of the platforms that was the latter. Did Nintendo make some mistakes? Well clearly. But you can't blame them for the inevitability of games not appearing when things started going south. That's just the nature of the beast.

Anyways, if you want to complain about the Switch for things that happened to the Wii U? You have two hours to do it before your arguments could potentially lose their audience. So use the time wisely

2 hours to go

2 hours to go
I am hyped

Gosh I hope I wake up to good news tomorrow morning.

And the chance to still preorder. lol