I was just watching the NL video about games not on Switch and it got me thinking about Wii U ports. It seems crazy to me they don't port basically everything from Wii U. More than 10 times as many Switches have been sold than Wii Us and presumably some prior Wii U owners don't own a Switch. So even though it seems large on this website, the number of Switch owners who would have already played a particular Wii U game is a miniscule fraction. So a port would basically be a new game. I have no idea why they don't just spam us with all the Wii U Kirby, Yoshi, Zelda, etc.
Maybe Nintendo is just sitting on them to dribble out when they have a schedule gap? I suppose it's not like their release schedule isn't usually fairly packed.
@FishyS Some of the games we're missing sort of make sense. Mario Maker 1, Splatoon 1, and Super Smash Bros Wii U all don't really need to come back since the Switch already has sequels to those games, which in these cases means the original doesn't really need to come back. Xenoblade X might struggle to sell as well as they'd like it to, so not sure if they'd think this would be worth it. Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival and Paper Mario Color Splash are considered underwhelming compared to other games in those series so they might not want to bring those back without major changes. Sadly, Nintendo Land and Wii Party U rely too much on Gamepad so it's very doubtful we'll see these games return.
Games like Yoshi's Woolly World and Kirby Rainbow Curse seem like top picks for Nintendo to bring back, and I'm surprised they haven't come to Switch yet.
@PikminMarioKirby You make a decent point about some of the games simply being less popular.
It occured to me to look at Wii U games ranked by metacritic score and the vast majority of the highest rated first and third party games have been ported. As you go lower in the list ports get much less common... which I suppose makes sense.
Of the top 75 rated Wii U games, all are also on a non-Wii U Nintendo console except:
Nintendo:
xenoblade chronicles x
Art Academy: Atelier
Splatoon 1
pushmo world
other publishers:
Need for Speed most wanted U
mass effect 3
Tekken tag tournament 2
Stealth Inc 2
year walk
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2
fast racing NEO
affordable space adventures
scram kitty
extreme exorcism
Deus Ex
nba 2k13
So 16 of the top 75 are trapped on Wii U (at least restricting to Nintendo consoles). Plus some more I didn't list were on both Wii U and 3DS but since 76 million 3DS were sold, a lot of current Switch owners already had a chance to play those games so they're not quite in the same situation.
@PikminMarioKirby XCX isn't a sales issue (entirely) so much as an architecture issue. Monolith has come out and said that getting the game working on Switch would be incredibly difficult and costly. Which, of course does lead back into sales, but still. I'd assume they're just going to hold off until the next system to give it a remaster a la XC:DE.
Woolly World is by far the best game with no baggage that's missing from the Switch. I don't see Rainbow Curse coming over because it's night impossible to make it play well in docked mode... and you really need a stylus even in portable mode.
Looking at the rest of the titles:
Ultra Smash has all of it's content in Aces other than one court afaik. Splatoon 1 + Smash 4 have 95+% of their content added into their sequels. (Excluding a few stages for Smash and the single player mode for Splatoon)
Mario Party 10, Star Fox Zero / Guard, Game & Wario, Nintendo Land, are all way too tied to Wii U's gimmick
Of the various Sonic games, only Sonic Lost World might get a port someday. Boom was disasterous, and Mario + Sonic games never get rereleaed. (I do want Sonic & All Stars but that's not an exclusive)
The various Wii X titles got sequels / spiritual succesors instead, they have moved away from that branding.
Dr. Luigi seems... possible, but I'd just expect a new Dr. Mario instead.
Twilight Princess HD and Wind Waker HD are toss-ups. They might be holding onto them for Switch 2 at this point.
Paper Mario Color Splash is pretty much universally panned... but they made Origami King in the same style, so I don't see it not showing up eventually... maybe not until the Switch 2 though at this point.
Pokemon Rumble U was an Ambrella title, and with Ambrella merged with Creatures to work on the main series titles, I don't see anyone else picking up porting duties.
EDIT: I forgot Art Academy... While Colors Live has totally filled that hole for me this gen, it is weird we haven't gotten a sequel. Though I suppose it's hard to compete against a game that invented a new peripheral to make the new touchscreen work lol.
As Pikmin 4's 1st Anniversary is July 21st, we still have not yet seen any major updates/DLC. At this point it seems unlikely we'll see new content/QoL changes, however I will not rule it out yet.
Pikmin 4 is still being marketed quite a bit, even compared to many releases that have been more recent like Super Mario RPG, Detective Pikachu Returns, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, WarioWare Move It, Another Code, Endless Ocean, and possibly even Princess Peach Showtime (although this one is still a decent focus for Nintendo). We recently got a trailer for Pikmin 4 with a humming song (for the 2nd time). I'm very curious why Nintendo won't drop advertising this game, it's pretty unusual for Nintendo to do this.
I 100% the game, however there was still this rock-building thing with a door-like opening that could be seen at the Rescue Command Post, and I'm still wondering what that is. I was wondering if that would have anything to do with a potential DLC?
The official Pikmin 4 website in Japan has caused a lot of speculation about potential DLC (showing things not possible in the game like 2-players riding Oatchi, certain treasures in unusual areas, Louie in a place I don't think he was ever seen before). There's this investigation/report section of the website, and we are waiting for the 10th (and last) page of it. Surprised to see it still not released even though it's been about a year since the Pikmin 4's release.
On the website, they have a quiz thing that you had to guess the item and it'd be similar to an in-game treasure. This was pretty much a weekly thing for a long time, however it stopped early January (at least on the website) at 26, and now #27 has released within the past few days. Pretty much every time at the end it'd show Pikmin carrying the item, however #27 is different. The answer (SPOILERS IF YOU WANT TO TRY TO GUESS) is a macaroon (or macaron, not completely sure which is which) which do sort of appear in the game. At the end, it shows Pikmin near a Bulborb for some reason. The macaroon was an important item in Pikmin 3's Bingo Battle (called Victory Macaroons), so it is odd that they chose to do something different when doing macaroon. The macaroons shown that you are supposed to guess look a lot different than the in-game ones and are possibly a different kind, so maybe these are not the same thing? I don't really think this is pointing towards much but it is certainly interesting. https://www.nintendo.com/jp/character/pikmin/quiz/index.html
Anyways, do you think there will be any DLC for this game? Maybe an upgrade for the Switch Successor? Any anniversary plans? Possible, but I won't get my hopes too high. This game feels huge/complete on it's own, but new content is certainly welcome!
Hard to guess about Pikmin DLC, although I agree some of the advertising made it seem plausible. Seems unlikely it would come out this year since it wasn't mentioned in the June direct, but if we even have a September direct, Pikmin 4 (or DLC of current games in general) seems like something which could help fill the 2025 schedule before Switch 2. Alternately, I had kind of wondered if they would save Mario Wonder DLC as a cross-release to sort of shoe-horn 2D Mario early onto Switch 2 and sell some more Wonder copies. I could see them potentially doing that for Pikmin as well.
@FishySSuper Mario Bros. Wonder and Pikmin 4 are both games I thought had a good chance of getting DLC, since NSMB2, NSMBU, and Pikmin 3 got paid DLC (and Mario Maker 2 got many major updates) and since those are all the same developer team, it'd make sense that Wonder and Pikmin 4 would get DLC. I guess we'll have to wait and see, I'd love to get some DLC for both games, both some of my favorites on Switch!
Mario Party 10, Star Fox Zero / Guard, Game & Wario, Nintendo Land, are all way too tied to Wii U's gimmick
I think this is an interesting space to explore. Not necessarily bringing these games over as-is but possibly exploring these ideas again. It's been my view for a while that Nintendo could re-visit the second screen idea of the Wii U but via a software solution instead. It's something that others already do via a web-app but I think you could get better results from a dedicated Android/iOS/Windows + a Switch native app
Could you reliably do the live, low latency video feed to a minimum standard like you did on the Wii U? Possibly not. Could you do the physical controls? Also no outside of a second Switch. But you could certainly achieve something interesting. I believe it was Pokemon Battle Revolution on the Wii which allowed you to use your DS as a controller to select your moves between turns. That could be done on mobile. The "find Mii" games in Nintendo Land? You could achieve something like that with an app. And I think the same is largely true for the kinds of things they were doing in Mario Party 10, WarioWare and StarFox Guard
StarFox Zero but.... just do a new StarFox
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@skywake It'd be interesting yeah. I absolutely adore Nintendo Land, and it's the primary reason my Wii U is still set up at this point. But I don't see Nintendo really pushing that at the moment after how bad it flopped before.
Really though, Nintendo Land could theoretically work as is on most game if you had the 'asymetric' player be playing a Switch in portable mode, while the others play on the TV. But that basically makes the game only playable with two switches so...
@PikminMarioKirby The Pikmin stuff is definitely weirding me out at this point. They're advertising so hard still yet there's no sign of any content? New content popping up? It seems like the Pikmin advertising is in fact ramping back up right now, rather than down. If they aren't planning DLC I have no idea what the deal is.
Really though, Nintendo Land could theoretically work as is on most game if you had the 'asymetric' player be playing a Switch in portable mode, while the others play on the TV. But that basically makes the game only playable with two switches so..
To be clear I'm not necessarily talking about Nintendo Land directly here. I'm more talking about a game takes some of what Nintendo Land did and reworks it for the Switch. And within that you could have one or two mini-games which use a second device, either optionally or required. And then possibly have some others that use the JoyCon in some way
Plus when you look at what Nintendo Land did how much of it really needed the asymmetrical gameplay? The adventure games, they could've largely done a similar thing with just regular controllers. The solo games could largely be done in tablet mode. The only place really where you needed the GamePad were the competitive games which, admittedly, are the only reason I ever bring the game up. But as one mode in a collection I don't see why you couldn't do it
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@link3710 I really like Nintendo Land too, but I think it’ll have to be a very different game to come to Switch. Having 2 Switches is something some games do on the side (like Super Mario Party) but I can’t see an entire game needing 2 Switches.
As for Pikmin DLC, I am very curious that if we don’t end up getting DLC, why they continued to market it for so long.
@PikminMarioKirby Nintendo seems to have approached things such that there's a steady stream of announcements post-Direct. Like Splatoon 3 Grand Fest + amiibo and Emio would've been perfect fits for the June Direct but they chose to have July standalone announcements instead.
Maybe it's so that Nintendo discussion doesn't devolve into endless Switch 2 speculation and rumours?
@Grumblevolcano We got Famicom Detective Club at a Direct a few years ago, so the June Direct would’ve been the perfect place to announce Emio.
Splatoon completely missed the June Direct, and I’m pretty sure Splatoon has been in every general Direct the past couple years so it was weird that it was just absent this time. Grand Fest and the amiibo could’ve easily been at the Direct, but they chose to announce it later.
That being said, it seems like an intentional move that they waited to announce these things, so your theory about trying to avoid Switch’s Successor being the only Nintendo topic people talk about seems plausible.
I expect a Pokemon Legends Z-A trailer/Pokemon Presents in August (the release day, if revealed, will likely cause a lot of Switch Successor speculation), so I think the best place for Pikmin 4 DLC would be either before August or to fill in early October or December.
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