Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

That's fair... there are a few recent games I would have bought on a different platform if I had a different platform. Obviously Switch runs some 3rd party games fine, but there have also been a lot of bad examples lately.

@Anti-Matter me either. I have no expectations and the console acknowledgement didn't hype me at all.

Three types of people here:
1. People who are happy with the Switch and look forward to an improved version of the same concept
2. People who are happy with the Switch and see the idea of new hardware as an attack on their enjoyment of the Switch
3. People who don't like the Switch and want validation and praise for being contrarian

@skywake I'm only not excited for new hardware because of what happened to Xbox/PS during 8th and 9th gen. Gaming is a horrible mess at the moment due to greed but the current Switch is a like a time machine back to the late 2000s when gaming was in a much better state.

I don't want a situation where the Zelda movie being a gigantic success results in the Xenoblade franchise being cancelled because BotW 3's development cycle is much longer than TotK, I don't want a situation where Splatoon is cancelled because CoD acts as its replacement, I don't want a situation where the next console Mario Kart is filled to the brim with microtransactions, etc.

@Grumblevolcano
Better hardware isn't the cause of all of modern gaming's ills. Hardware is just a platform for software to be released on. The fact that the Switch is seemingly immune from modern gaming woes has more to do with the fact that Nintendo is Nintendo and not Activision

Nintendo Switch sucessor has been anounced, what we can expect for Nintendo next console

I feel like better hardware will mainly have small changes.

Currently 81% of Nintendo game profits are coming from first party games, with that varying from 70 to 90 in different quarters.

Switch 2 will have more current indies and third party games which actually run well, but the very fanciest AAA games will continue to either not be on Switch 2 or will run less well than on e.g. PS5 Pro. Switch 2 will have CoD, but Switch already has popular micro-transaction-filled games like Fortnite. I could easily imagine that 81% profit from first party lowering, but first party games will continue to be the main draw and main profit.

As for the actual games? Nintendo will continue to make some fairly expensive to develop (but not industry-record.expensive) games like BotW and will also continue to make plenty of cheaper to develop games. They will continue to focus on gameplay, with the occasional weird experiment thrown in. They have a winning formula so I don't really see them changing it at this time, just keeping it slightly more modern.

@skywake @FishyS Greed like the concept of infinite growth is the cause of the problems with Xbox/PS. It just seems to be that greed became a lot more prominent when 8th gen power territory was entered and even more with 9th gen.

@Grumblevolcano
I agree with your core concern here I just don't see how that's related to the power of the hardware. I mean we see some of these things happening in the mobile space, and have done for a while. We also see similar behaviour in other media like music and movies where there isn't really a change of "platform power" happening

Now Nintendo could well go down this road. And they might yet. But if they do I don't think a jump in hardware spec will be the reason for it. I don't think the pixel count or GFLOPS of the Switch is some kind of elastic strap holding back the floodgates of Nintendo pulling an Activision

the challenges of manufacturing Switch sucessor

Little Kitty Big City video review is live on nintendolife's youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7QQPkE-GsQ

@Grumblevolcano

It's a fine line, corporations wanting to make enough profits to continue operating their business and investors wanting that corporation to make all the money. Fiduciary responsibility feels like the real culprit with all the upheaval in the video game industry.

I’m planning on exiting gaming after the switch successor. I have more games than life left to play them all and honestly gaming didn’t go in the direction I had hoped as a kid. I am realizing that I am getting diminishing returns in enjoyment out of newer games. But I still enjoy my old faves so it isn’t like I dislike gaming as a whole. Also it’s too much to move and keep track of. When it takes half a day to set up your AV system (this includes speaker mounting) it is time to take a step back. I am future proofing my retro systems as best I can and bought parts for my old LCD tv due to the inputs it has but other than that I will give the switch successor a go and build a new PC but I am out after that. I plan on the PS5 and series x to be my last sony and MS consoles. I am mildly curious as to what the successor will look like though.

@Ryu_Niiyama I've pondered over such things myself, more than once, in the last year or so. Realistically though, for as long as Nintendo continues to turn out sufficiently iterated Mario Kart, Zelda, Animal Crossing, Metroid, Splatoon, can I see myself ever turning my back on that?

I doubt I will ever buy more games during an active generation than I have done with Switch, but I don't think I'll be able to walk away completely, however big the backlog.

@gcunit and that is fair. It is something that everyone has to weigh out individually. Between my backlog (and wishlist) and like I said I am getting diminishing returns from gaming (don’t misunderstand, the games that I love that have been recent, I LOVE them) and my focus is shifting to other hobbies and investments/savings. Grad school and my career are going at an ok pace so my hope is by the time I finish (more than one degree) I can buy a house finally (or worst case be able to afford a luxury apartment… I am at the point that I could rent forever if I make enough). Tbf I originally thought my waning interest was due to me being sick of being a debt laden millennial as I am nearly done with my student loan and consumer debt (paying grad school out of pocket) but it is really just gaming itself. As I am having fun with the games I do like and the working on my retro systems. It’s just the future beyond Nintendo doesn’t look bright/fun for me.

Personally I’m ok with moving on. I think too many hold on to something until they hate it/it hurts them and that’s not me. Plus I have other hobbies that will take up the slack. Taiko and astrophotography alone will eat up my former game budget just fine. I’d quit with the Switch honestly if I thought I could go cold turkey haha.

Also same. The amount of games I bought during the Switch gen is insane (if I clear my wishlist as planned I will have over 1000 switch games). I probably doubled my entire collection with Switch alone. So I have plenty to play.

Honestly sometimes I feel like I like the idea of games more than I like games. And I only pick up major releases out of some kind of weird obligation to my identity or something.....

....but then something like BotW lands and I go "oh, right, this is why I like this thing"

I think a ton of us try to force liking games almost as a way to fill gaps in our lives that just weren't there when we were kids.

And then we join places like this trying to tap into that nostalgia and stuff, and we feel like we need to be "in on" everything happening. We all join these discussions and pretend like we know everything about gaming, and we like to list the games we're playing and all that.

It's pretty weird when you step back and think about it. It's pretty divorced from doing things when you just intrinsically like them. You shouldn't have to advertise to other people about stuff you just truly like doing.

I think a lot of us need breaks from both games and social media lol

@skywake kind of how I feel at times. Not all the time though. I get in gaming slumps, like to still talk about games, read up on news, and I'll play every night, but that doesn't mean I'm over the moon enthralled with what I'm playing. But then a huge zelda, mario, FE, or xenoblade comes around and I'm 100% sucked back in. It's seasonal for me.

@GrailUK Not a terrible idea there for a thread, Grail. But I assume the Switch successor will get its own forum shortly after it's formally announced.

Until then, can't wait for the leaked images off of the manufacturing assembly line.