Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@NintendoByNature issue is that they keep popping up like two or three times a month. Especially this month and last month.

there needs to be a limit for them to occur. Like once every few month. Im getting tired of the updates/patching up happening like almost every damn week this month

I really wish my self censored comment on the top of the page wasn't removed for "inappropriate language". (seriously mods. we're removing comments when someone pads a word with * now?). Because it really does very cleanly express a very reasonable position to take in response to someone complaining about patches. In a way that my second comment doesn't really articulate. End users really have a different mindset, one they wouldn't have if they knew how the sausage was made

I'd never complain about patches. Especially patches where the company doesn't explicitly state what it is and just says "security and stability improvements". Even moreso if it's an update that comes very quickly after another update. Updates that they don't tell you what it is? Ones that come out quick? Those are the ones where the company doesn't want to tell you what used to be wrong. If they're being coy odds are it's either an embarrassing mistake or an exploit they don't want to publicise. If its quick then they're breaking their comfortable process to get it out quickly. Those are the kind of updates that you REALLY want to get

Wouldn’t be so bad if patches would download immediately or get in a queue to be downloaded instead of having to go into each individual game icon and manually check each one to see if an update is available. Or they could start loading system updates like they Sony did on psp by having games with the updates on the game!

@GameOtaku
You don't have to download the updates for games though. If there's an update there's an option to skip it and just play the game. Also, to be blunt, the vast majority of people with a modern gaming console don't have the same allergic reaction to the entire concept of the internet as you do

@skywake
It’s pretty annoying though to play a game after a bit and when you click to play at home at night says an update is available for the software when you were just on internet service earlier in the day. Not everyone has internet at all times up their butts. Allergic? No. It’s not needed to play offline single player experiences.

I am 100% with Skywake on most of this discussion, but as to what @GameOtaku just said, I do agree if you have 'auto updates' turned on and your Switch is docked, Nintendo should have an option to update both the system and every single game overnight (or queue them at other times). The amount of inconvenience waiting for updates has given me personally is quite small, but I can imagine it would be a bit annoying if you have a slow or inconsistent internet connection and want to play the updated version of a game immediately.

That would be a small but reasonable quality of life improvement by Nintendo and Nintendo already does a similar thing with pre-order downloads so it's not like the capability doesn't exist.

@FishyS
Or when you power it on and it connects to internet starts downloading updates to all games and system. (Preferably the system takes priority and the games update afterwards if an update is available)

The way the psp did system updates if you bought a game after a new update was out it was usually included on the umd. So you could update your system completely offline.

@FishyS
I agree that the ability to have game updates run in the background would be a decent QoL improvement. It's just I also know where @GameOtaku is coming from due to previous discussions. Your solution doesn't address their scenario which I think it's very, very, very niche. We're talking about the scenario where someone goes online while the console isn't in standby presumably to specifically download game updates and nothing else because they're not paying for NSO. But when their console is in standby and for most of the time it isn't online.....

Frankly I haven't really really been bothered by the way it currently works. Updates never get in the way of playing a game because there's always the option to skip. Also I'm fairly sure that if you're not currently online it doesn't pester you to say a game update is available. I went on holidays recently and played a fair bit of Switch, I was never prompted to update

Oh, and as a side note, in 2016 (when the question was last asked in the Census) 86% of households in Australia had an internet connection at home. It rises to 97% when you include only households with someone under 15 years. I would assume that rate would be marginally higher now and probably also higher in households that have a device like the Switch. So yeah, not an audience they should really be putting too much energy into catering for

edit: Actually I do agree with @GameOtaku on one thing. If a game requires a minimum system version then the required system update should be on the cartridge. I wasn't aware that this wasn't the case given that 1. I haven't brought a game on cartridge in a long while and 2. system updates are frequent and download automatically. I suspect if they've done it like this it so there's an actual disincentive to piracy but it's not good for preservation so I'm not a fan

@skywake
Yeah you can always skip the updates for games but usually as soon as you connect it will update the games the message has been given for. It’s especially odd when a game goes on sell in the middle of the week and you pick up a physical copy and as soon as you pop it in says an update is available for the game when the console has been offline since the weekend prior to release.

Bit of a random question but didn't think it warranted a thread of its own...but has anyone's Switch turned itself off while it was in sleep mode?

I use mine docked 99% of the time, so I usually turn it on with a pro controller. But today it just wasn't happening. Checked my TV and my Switch wasn't even listed as an input.
Went to the dock and picked it up, but it wasn't even on? Felt slightly warm despite not being used for a week or so.

I don't know, I worry. And it isn't something I've seen or heard of before.
But it was fully charged and everything was plugged in. It's not connected to the internet so it's not like it was a update that rebooted it.
...any ideas? I'll see how it's doing but buying a replacement isn't really an option.

Thanks in advance ~

@Kimyonaakuma
No. Maybe power cut out for a few hours and the battery drained and powered off, then power came back on but system remained off.

Or, its just a fluke. Maybe the connection with the USB-C didn't seat all the way so it wasn't charging, then drained and powered off, then subtly seated and the connection was made and it charged.

Hard to say. I really wouldn't worry about it unless it happened again. Too many anomalies occur just once. Need to see a trend before any real assessment can be made.

@Kimyonaakuma
I think this happened two or three times with my Switch and I own it since launch day. It works perfectly fine now, so I would not worry about it.

@Kimyonaakuma
Personally, I think it was something to do with how the Switch was sitting in the dock and maybe the connection wasn't stable.

However, you mentioned you hadn't used it for a week or so. This is certainly no official statement, but in my experience, when you have the Switch in sleep for a week or more without using it, weird stuff can happen in general. I always try to turn it on just for a minute even if I haven't been using it, and if I know I won't use it for a week or more, I just shut it off entirely instead of sleeping it.

Regardless, I wouldn't worry about it.

@Kimyonaakuma "usually turn it on with a pro controller" = leaving switch in sleep mode. I bet your switch froze or glitched and it prevented the switch from going back to sleep properly. I've seen a pattern in here; People that leave their switch in sleep mode for days and weeks.... long periods of never shutting down seems to make inexplicable glitches more likely to happen. This can also spawn controller connectivity issues. But the problem is resolved if you reboot the console.

Persona 5 Tactica finally received a gameplay trailer instead of those character introduction trailers.

I'm really loving what I see here. This looks way better than Persona Q/Q2 or any of the other spinoffs they've done. It's a genre I actually really love, and it seems they've nailed a unique approach with the gameplay that makes it stand apart from other strategy games. Though I will admit, the 3 person teams reminds me of Mario Rabbids, which certainly isn't a bad thing.

I'm so used to key franchises releasing spinoffs that are in a genre I'm not particularly fond of, and typically being mediocre on top of that. But this is not only a spinoff in one of my favorite genres, it actually looks great!

@WoomyNNYes
Maybe, but I've left my Switch in sleep mode since the day it launched in 2017 (though I upgraded to v2 and then again to the OLED). I've only experienced a glitch 3 times in the last 6.5 years. And all 3 times it was the same thing- the Switch became unresponsive in the quick menu and I was forced to perform a hard shut down holding the power button. Last time that happened was several years ago.

Damn, there was a really good online track selection streak going on in MK8 Deluxe. It went:

• GCN Sherbet Land
• GCN Daisy Cruiser
• GCN Baby Park

With one of the options for race 4 being GCN Waluigi Stadium but Mute City got selected instead.

Yeah, it may not be super common. Usually, the people I've seen that made threads had a few things in common: It was their kid's switch. They never shut down their switch. They didn't know how to how to do the hard reboot (hold power button down for 15-20 seconds -whatever it is).They regularly keep games open. I also suspect that you, as a computer literate adult, probably use your switch with better understanding than a kid. I think some freezing issues may be more likely with some games, or third party games or online third party games.

In july, my switch froze, wouldn't wake from sleep mode. I can't recall if that's ever happened to me before since switch launch. My 10 yr old niece was the last one using my switch. She put the switch in sleep mode when called for dinner, in the middle of playing Fall Guys (online game). Maybe that was a total fluke? But this thing never happens when I'm the only one using it. Or maybe kids are more likely to put the switch in sleep mode at times an adult wouldn't - like putting the switch to sleep during a load screen.

There were at least three threads created that I've seen, where a parent mentions controllers not working correctly, connectivity issues, like right joycon won't connect all of the sudden. They coudlnt' figure out what was wrong. And I've seen some other threads with other inexplicable issues. Then they did a hard reboot, or just rebooted the console (as suggested by someone or myself here), and the problem was resolved. Most of these cases were a kid's switch that rarely gets shut down, or regularly use sleep mode with a game running (possibly their favorite game that is kept open longer than most adults would keep a game open).

Based on what Im reading on this page, people dont have common sense. Of course you dont leave your device on sleep mode for a long time. And if you play exclusively in docked mode, CHARGE THE CONSOLE AND J CONS EVERY SIX MONTHS. Peeps, where da common sense?

@Grumblevolcano Nintendo give us Airship Fotress your coward.

Sea of stars is getting amazing reviews, as I suspected. I'll be playing on gp first, but will be buying it down the road at some point when it gets a physical. Every jrpg fan should have their eyes set on this one.