Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

Priorities for Dev queue:
1. Data loss or security risks
2. Broken functionally
3. Performance issues
.......
9999. New features

Priorities for users:
1. Cosmetic issues
2. New features
.... that's it

@XandertheWise Would you rather have your system or games crash or freeze or maybe get hacked? Those are some of the alternatives to regular updates.

Of course one option to avoid updates is just don't connect your system to the Internet.

@Link-Hero The 'never connect to internet' option avoids a lot of the security problems as well as avoiding the updates. 😝

@FishyS Excuse me bub but my gaming systems from PSP to Nintendo 3DS to Playstation 4 and X Box One S i never had a problem with them being "hacked"

these frikkin constant system updates are a pain in the ass. Once is enough. I think they should be done like once every few months a year Not frikkin 2 to 3 months in a row for cripes sake

@JaxonH
I didn't complain for waiting my PS4 Slim get updated so I could do something else while my PS4 Slim being updated.
I wish I have PS5 machine.
My PS5 games are ready to be played.

What's going on here Lol. System updates only take a handful of minutes. Minor inconvenience I don't understand what the issue is.

@Link-Hero system updates patching has nothing to do with me being lucky with not having my game systems hacked. I never had a problem with them before in the first place.

the recent constant system updates can f off for all i care. Enough is enough like i said

@NintendoByNature issue is that they keep popping up like two or three times a month. Especially this month and last month.

there needs to be a limit for them to occur. Like once every few month. Im getting tired of the updates/patching up happening like almost every damn week this month

I really wish my self censored comment on the top of the page wasn't removed for "inappropriate language". (seriously mods. we're removing comments when someone pads a word with * now?). Because it really does very cleanly express a very reasonable position to take in response to someone complaining about patches. In a way that my second comment doesn't really articulate. End users really have a different mindset, one they wouldn't have if they knew how the sausage was made

I'd never complain about patches. Especially patches where the company doesn't explicitly state what it is and just says "security and stability improvements". Even moreso if it's an update that comes very quickly after another update. Updates that they don't tell you what it is? Ones that come out quick? Those are the ones where the company doesn't want to tell you what used to be wrong. If they're being coy odds are it's either an embarrassing mistake or an exploit they don't want to publicise. If its quick then they're breaking their comfortable process to get it out quickly. Those are the kind of updates that you REALLY want to get

Wouldn’t be so bad if patches would download immediately or get in a queue to be downloaded instead of having to go into each individual game icon and manually check each one to see if an update is available. Or they could start loading system updates like they Sony did on psp by having games with the updates on the game!

@GameOtaku
You don't have to download the updates for games though. If there's an update there's an option to skip it and just play the game. Also, to be blunt, the vast majority of people with a modern gaming console don't have the same allergic reaction to the entire concept of the internet as you do

@skywake
It’s pretty annoying though to play a game after a bit and when you click to play at home at night says an update is available for the software when you were just on internet service earlier in the day. Not everyone has internet at all times up their butts. Allergic? No. It’s not needed to play offline single player experiences.

I am 100% with Skywake on most of this discussion, but as to what @GameOtaku just said, I do agree if you have 'auto updates' turned on and your Switch is docked, Nintendo should have an option to update both the system and every single game overnight (or queue them at other times). The amount of inconvenience waiting for updates has given me personally is quite small, but I can imagine it would be a bit annoying if you have a slow or inconsistent internet connection and want to play the updated version of a game immediately.

That would be a small but reasonable quality of life improvement by Nintendo and Nintendo already does a similar thing with pre-order downloads so it's not like the capability doesn't exist.

@FishyS
Or when you power it on and it connects to internet starts downloading updates to all games and system. (Preferably the system takes priority and the games update afterwards if an update is available)

The way the psp did system updates if you bought a game after a new update was out it was usually included on the umd. So you could update your system completely offline.

@FishyS
I agree that the ability to have game updates run in the background would be a decent QoL improvement. It's just I also know where @GameOtaku is coming from due to previous discussions. Your solution doesn't address their scenario which I think it's very, very, very niche. We're talking about the scenario where someone goes online while the console isn't in standby presumably to specifically download game updates and nothing else because they're not paying for NSO. But when their console is in standby and for most of the time it isn't online.....

Frankly I haven't really really been bothered by the way it currently works. Updates never get in the way of playing a game because there's always the option to skip. Also I'm fairly sure that if you're not currently online it doesn't pester you to say a game update is available. I went on holidays recently and played a fair bit of Switch, I was never prompted to update

Oh, and as a side note, in 2016 (when the question was last asked in the Census) 86% of households in Australia had an internet connection at home. It rises to 97% when you include only households with someone under 15 years. I would assume that rate would be marginally higher now and probably also higher in households that have a device like the Switch. So yeah, not an audience they should really be putting too much energy into catering for

edit: Actually I do agree with @GameOtaku on one thing. If a game requires a minimum system version then the required system update should be on the cartridge. I wasn't aware that this wasn't the case given that 1. I haven't brought a game on cartridge in a long while and 2. system updates are frequent and download automatically. I suspect if they've done it like this it so there's an actual disincentive to piracy but it's not good for preservation so I'm not a fan

@skywake
Yeah you can always skip the updates for games but usually as soon as you connect it will update the games the message has been given for. It’s especially odd when a game goes on sell in the middle of the week and you pick up a physical copy and as soon as you pop it in says an update is available for the game when the console has been offline since the weekend prior to release.

Bit of a random question but didn't think it warranted a thread of its own...but has anyone's Switch turned itself off while it was in sleep mode?

I use mine docked 99% of the time, so I usually turn it on with a pro controller. But today it just wasn't happening. Checked my TV and my Switch wasn't even listed as an input.
Went to the dock and picked it up, but it wasn't even on? Felt slightly warm despite not being used for a week or so.

I don't know, I worry. And it isn't something I've seen or heard of before.
But it was fully charged and everything was plugged in. It's not connected to the internet so it's not like it was a update that rebooted it.
...any ideas? I'll see how it's doing but buying a replacement isn't really an option.

Thanks in advance ~

@Kimyonaakuma
No. Maybe power cut out for a few hours and the battery drained and powered off, then power came back on but system remained off.

Or, its just a fluke. Maybe the connection with the USB-C didn't seat all the way so it wasn't charging, then drained and powered off, then subtly seated and the connection was made and it charged.

Hard to say. I really wouldn't worry about it unless it happened again. Too many anomalies occur just once. Need to see a trend before any real assessment can be made.

@Kimyonaakuma
I think this happened two or three times with my Switch and I own it since launch day. It works perfectly fine now, so I would not worry about it.

@Kimyonaakuma
Personally, I think it was something to do with how the Switch was sitting in the dock and maybe the connection wasn't stable.

However, you mentioned you hadn't used it for a week or so. This is certainly no official statement, but in my experience, when you have the Switch in sleep for a week or more without using it, weird stuff can happen in general. I always try to turn it on just for a minute even if I haven't been using it, and if I know I won't use it for a week or more, I just shut it off entirely instead of sleeping it.

Regardless, I wouldn't worry about it.