Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Giancarlothomaz I am always impressed with the length of some Youtube videos when the folk that make them don't know anything. Not impressed enough to watch them, mind, but impressed nevertheless

Finally gave Nier Automata a go after all these years thanks to October's Switch release.

And my feelings so far are...mixed.

The opening segment was incredible in the way it seamlessly blended action segments from different perspectives, from third person character action (with RPG elements) to schmup and twin-stick shooter type gameplay. What an excellent first impression.

Plus the atmosphere of this game is great, helped by its so-far excellent soundtrack. Plus the general premise is intriguing and I'm sure the story will develop into something interesting.

It's also quite the impressive port. Everything seems to be at a solid 30fps with no slowdown, and the resolution is...decent?

That said...I'm just not feeling it. Something about the game just feels very clunky to me. Like, I do enjoy the combat somewhat...but for the most part the game is feeling a little tedious. My main gripe is exploration. The combination of the muted colours and the use of so many invisible walls (there are so many areas I'm convinced I can access, but the game says otherwise) just makes it difficult for me to tell where to go. I wonder, is this a technical problem with the Switch version? Does the added sharpness (and presumably clearer textures, etc.) of the PS/Xbox/PC versions make exploration any more streamlined?

IDK...this seems like a game that I should be positioned to enjoy but it's just not clicking. I'll give it a few more hours and see though...

@GrailUK are you refering to the first or second video i posted here?(if is the second video, he does a anual prediction for the Metroid franchise he a huge Metroid fan, Metroid Prime is his favorite game of alltime)

@Giancarlothomaz Yeah, I'm not really into horoscopes lol. It would be nice to see it next year. But who knows how ambitious it is.

@Piquois
Each user needs a unique Nintendo Account, unless you just don't want to link to a Nintendo Account.

You can do it as a Family administrator though.

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a...

https://www.nintendo.com/sg/support/switch/user/index.html

@Buizel
I initially bounced off Nier Automata. It wasn't until I gave it another go on Switch I got sucked in. I wouldn't say I enjoyed it as much as Bayonetta 3, but it was still a dang good game. It took a few hours for it to dig its claws in but once it did, I was all in. I'd recommend keep playing for a while and see how it goes.

@JaxonH Thanks for the feedback. I am slowly chipping through it every evening so I will give it a chance. I think the setup alone (and promise of different "paths" to the story) is enough to keep me intrigued for now...I was just hoping to be a little more hooked.

@Rambler The known exploits have even been fixed already so it really seems like it's just getting people worried for the sake of being worried (I'm not saying more won't be found but now that Nintendo have been alerted to the issues, they'll naturally seek to iron out critical issues like this as soon as possible).

acording to John Linermann of Digital Foundry, Nintendo has canceled Switch Pro to focus on the launch of the sucessor of Nintendo Switch

@Giancarlothomaz Some people cant swallow their pride.

We've had these rumours since before the system even came out. Every three months without damn fail, either a game was too good and had to be on a stronger system, or ran poorly so we need a stronger system. That's all the discourse around this console has ever been, and its people like that that parrot it.

But DigitalFoundry is part of Eurogamer, never forget how they broke Pokemon Stars and Star Fox Grand Prix, those games with assets they got that totally came out.

Just like now, "Yeah we told you it was coming, it just got cancelled trust us". Yeah no. Swallow your pride.

The rumours always rely on the fact, Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are always researching development for future hardware. But the reality is they never know whether it’s going to be announced from one day to the next. It’s really just an easy prediction to make that Nintendo’s next hardware release is a successor rather than a pro model because it’s nearly 6 years into the life cycle. Easy predictions to generate clicks.

@Haruki_NLI @FragRed All that has really happened in the land of Youtube is the name Switch Pro will be dropped and they will be speculating the exact same shi-errr stuff about the Switch 2 alongside some fantasy context.

@GrailUK Are people still speculating pro versions of the PS5 and Xbox? I remember that was a thing for a while - I think in part because of how limiting ray tracing is hardware wise.

@Haruki_NLI also dont forget the fact that Eurogamer/Bloomberg was the fist media outlet that got the information how the Switch could be first, they could be wrong or not, only Nintendo to tell us about the Switch sucessor, 2023 is very likely they will start droping hints, even revealing the Switch sucessor for a 2023 holiday release or a early 2024 release, Nintendo will only reveal the Switch sucessor when they want, you can rush it reveal/release, holiday 2023/early 2024 and using Tegra 239 as it chipset is the only information we can speculate for the console, before Nintendo reveal more of the console, @Fragred some analysis speculate Nintendo could release the Switch sucessor in 2024

I think we can say with confidence we'll have a successor in our hands within the next 24 months. I just don't see them extending Switch lifespan much beyond that. Maybe 27 months at the absolute most, with a March 2025 release.

So either it comes with Zelda in May.

Or.

It doesn't, in which case it's a coin toss as to whether it's 2024 or early 2025. Guess it depends on how things go with the chip supply, market demand, etc. But if they opt to hold off on Switch 2 and not release with Zelda, I wonder what they do plan on launching with. Can't put it off another 5 years waiting for another Zelda to be developed. So they'd probably launch with Mario, Mario Kart, Metroid Prime, a new Monolith Soft JRPG and a Pokemon in the first 9 month launch window, with teases of a Zelda to come.

@JaxonH they could release the Switch sucessor with the next 3D Mario, Metroid Prime 4, Mario Kart 9, Pokemon gen 10, a new IP for Nintendo, the next Animal Crossing/Splatoon game, a return of a long dormant franchise(Kid Icarus or F-Zero or Star Fox) some ports of PS4/Xbox One games, at least one/two timed exclusive game for a major third party like Capcom/Square Enix

@Giancarlothomaz
Ya. As long as it has a big 20 million seller at launch, a good 20 million seller in summer, and a good 20 million seller for November, with some quality titles tucked in between, they'll be fine, Zelda or no Zelda.

@Giancarlothomaz
Curious about this video mostly because I have no idea what the distinction between "Switch 2" and "Switch Pro" is. And I'm constantly confused about what on earth people mean when they make that distinction. Seems kinda..... arbitrary.....

We'll find out either way soon enough, early February would probably be the absolute latest for announcement if launching with TotK. I'm still leaning towards launch with TotK but if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen.

@skywake
I think the distinction is, a Pro model does not have new exclusive games, or if it does, they're limited and feature similar box art but with a Pro moniker denoting the requirement. It features the same architecture with no radical changes to the console's philosophy, and runs the same OS with same UI elements.

Whereas a successor only features exclusive games, box art for said games sees a notable redesign, form factor for games can change (maybe still a cartridge but different size or shape, or maybe same size and shape but different color and different internals), and the OS is redesigned.

As far as we are concerned, I don't think people care much. Ppl are just thirsty for more power. And, who can blame them. The PS3/360 level of power is just enough to start producing good looking HD games, but it's right at the cusp, and can still see performance issues for anything not well optimized. PS3 and 360 went through the same thing in their time, with games dropping frames into the 20's (Resident Evil 5 and 6, Skyrim, etc). And now handhelds have finally caught up in power and are going through similar teething pains. People want that next leap, because they know the leap from PS3/360 to PS4/X1 drastically reduced performance issues. Not eliminated, but drastically reduced. And we all know the next bump up in power should achieve similar results for Switch.

But I think we all pretty much agreed a Pro is a no-go at this point. Too much time has passed. And I think it's for the better. Makes that big generational leap more meaningful when it finally arrives.