Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@skywake Switch Pro was a more powerful version of Switch like a New 3DS, Switch 2 is the sucessor of Nintendo Switch

@JaxonH
Honestly having now watched the full bit from DF I think people are maybe reading into the tea leaves a tad too much. The only thing really said of any insight was that there was a hardware revision earlier (i.e. the 2021 murmurs) that has since been dropped. Which seems probable and not really anything new. He then goes on to speculate that what will come out is not that (i.e. Switch "Pro") and then offers names like Super Switch and, jokingly, Switch U

I think you're right that the thing that differentiates a "successor" from a "revision" is exclusive content. But as I've said kinda endlessly on this site, there's a whole spectrum between "effectively the same platform" and "hard library reset". And also, this is kinda where DF went to next in their discussion where the consensus was generally that Nintendo's next hardware really needs to at least maintain BC

My personal view, which I've probably stated plenty. I think practically speaking we'll get something somewhat like the GBC era. I think they'll make the branding clear enough that it's obvious these are two distinct platforms. That "Switch 2/Pro/Super/whatever" games can't play on the regular Switch, probably even making the cartridges physically incompatible. And that library of games will be far larger than the one or two New 3DS/DSi exclusive games. But they'll also hold onto the Switch name which still holds some weight

But under the hood, outside of the artificial limitations imposed? I don't think there would technically be much stopping you from running a "Switch 2" game on Switch. I think it would just be an artificial construct to stop people buying games that won't run well. Eg the equivalent of if Valve stopped you from buying games if you didn't meet the minimum specs on the store page

Random tangent, this morning I went and brought myself an LG CS 55" OLED and a Sonos Beam. So I could turn the spare room into more of a home theatre/gaming room. Also because the OLED was heavily discounted making it viable as was the Beam. OLED because of the great contrast, fast response but it also has a huge VRR range (Nintendo, please). But Beam because it's a Gen2 Beam which means eARC so, with eARC on the LG I can, in theory, get surround via the Switch which stubbornly only does LPCM surround

The Beam I have now and I also had some other Sonos gear so I have a full 5.1 setup already. The TV I'm getting delivered so it'll arrive tomorrow. A 5.1 setup? Kinda useless without a TV. So I dug up my old 32" LCD (and I mean Cold Cathode backlit old) and moved my Switch into that room. Which means right now I have my Switch connected to something like $1500AU of Audio hardware and a 14 year old 32" LCD which you'd be lucky to get $30AU for

Not sure what my point here was. Just thought it was kinda amusing to (temporarily) have a setup where I can play a game on a console that's worth less than the sound setup and a TV that's worth less than the game. Also I guess tomorrow I can say I've joined team "Switch OLED" on a technicality

@skywake
Nice score.

I have the LG C1 55" 4KTV and it's great.

I also use my Switch with a surround setup, though I use the Sennheiser Ambeo which is consistently rated the best all-in-one soundbar in the world. It's crazy how it bounces sound off the walls and ceiling, sometimes I peak behind me thinking a noise came from there but it was the Atmos surround lol.

You'd be surprised how many Switch games actually support 5.1. Though to be fair, it's hard for me to tell the difference because the Ambeo boost mode gives everything a crazy awesome sound bubble.

If you have room for an actual 5.1 setup though, I don't think you can beat the real thing (though Ambeo comes darn close).

eARC is a must. It makes surround so easy. I also like that having a soundbar means having 3 extra HDMI ports. They may not be 2.1 (mine are just 2.0b) but that's OK. Switch, Wii U and Switch successor. Done and done. Without sacrificing the other 3 on the TV for PS5, XSX and PC.

@JaxonH
Yeah, eARC is definitely a game changer although I don't get the passthrough advantage given Sonos' love of single cable solutions. They don't have HDMI passthrough. But being able to push LPCM surround from the TV to a sound system over audio return? Means you can get surround on Switch. It also means it doesn't matter that DTS doesn't pass through because you can just convert DTS to LPCM. And on PC LPCM is usually what's used for surround also because there's no licencing

The headline act with eARC is Atmos but.... really it's having the bandwidth that can do multiple channel PCM that saves the day. Being a PC/Nintendo person it effectively means I go from not having surround on any games to having it as an option on pretty much everything

........... with that said, I'm mostly just hopeful that I can get surround going on PC. I'm not entirely confident of that. I've had headaches with it in the past

Picked up the Switch Lite for the first time in what feels like forever. Had like 40 games to download to catch up to my OLED.

Man, I forgot just how tiny and lightweight this system is. It's ultra thin and pocketable. After playing SteamDeck this thing feels like a GBA Micro by comparison. Even compared to the OLED it's small and light.

Right on the home screen I see Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core, Bayonetta 3, Persona 5 Royal, Nier Automata, Mario Rabbids Sparks of Hope and Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak.

A tiny, pocketable handheld that has games of that caliber is blowing my mind all over again.

An ode to the Nintendo Switch Lite. All this attention we give the OLED nowadays, I'm afraid our more compact friend here has been neglected.

Nintendo never learn for it mistake, i higly doubt the Switch sucessor is gonna be a sucess like the Switch(the probabity of it be another failure like Wii U or worse is huge, when Nintendo have a sucess they become arrogant, and this lead to a failure for they next console(history will repeat itself with Switch sucessor, you can demand to me if i am wrong, i always right)

@Giancarlothomaz
Our monkey brains like patterns, doesn't mean they exist

Sparks of Hope is 50% off ($30) in the US on Amazon and at GameStop right now for those that haven't picked it up yet.

@IceClimbers I just checked the U.K. Amazon and it’s same for us so I bought it. Thanks for the heads up.

2nd favorite game of the year for me.

@skywake so you expecting the Switch sucessor could be a sucess? we shall see it in 2024

@Giancarlothomaz
You don't know what you're talking about.

Nintendo couldn't find their place in the market. Now they have. Hybrid concept will continue to be a roaring success. Look how much ppl talk about Switch 2. It's everyone's obsession, and not just here, the entire media. What does that tell you? It tells you there's MASSIVE demand. People are chomping at the bit for the next Switch. How on earth could something "not be successful" when so many people desperately want it?

Furthermore, their portable devices are ALWAYS a massive success

You seriously need to start thinking through your opinions more before voicing them.

@Giancarlothomaz
You need to look at the circumstances of each console transition rather than just the binary "success or not" and the alternation between the two. The Wii U was failure for multiple reasons but ultimately what killed it was that the novelty of motion controls had worn off and offering HD, while novel for the Nintendo franchises, was no longer new. Also their only draw (HD Nintendo franchises) was late to arrive

The Gamecube failed because it was late to the party and its competitors gave people a DVD player during a period when everyone was jumping on DVD. The N64 was pretty middle of the road (which breaks your pattern BTW) because of the significantly higher price for games. Also because their competition offered something genuinely novel with CDs. And again, the N64 was late to the party

Then on the portable side, Nintendo has always offered cheap portable consoles and has always done well there. The closest they came to a failure here, if you ignore the VB, was the 3DS in that first 6 months. But a price cut and the release of OoT 3D rapidly turned that ship around

As it stands there is no other company on the market with a relatively cheap and mature portable gaming platform. And there appears to be no particular appetite to do this from anyone. You'd have to be pretty bold to predict Nintendo to loose this given they've held this space for three decades. Then on the other end of the Switch, high end portable gaming, their biggest competitor is Valve. And Valve is mostly about expanding the reach of PC gaming. They're about flexibility and openness rather than ease of use and games optimised for specific hardware. Nintendo still has a niche there also, people will take convenience over power

Their biggest risk here? If either Sony or Microsoft make a play they might take a hit on the top end. But neither of them seem interested in making that play outside of Android based streaming portables. If someone like Amazon make a play it could make things interesting also. But Nintendo is an established name with strong IP so while possible Nintendo would have a huge head start. Someone else coming in is more of a longer term risk

With the state of things currently I wouldn't be betting against Nintendo here

The 3DS had the worst launch Nintendo's maybe ever had, and they recovered quickly despite being in peak mobile game competition era by putting out some of the least inspired Mario games they've ever made, so no I don't think Switch 2 will do anything worse than pretty great.

I'm guessing about half this thread's 3377 pages are taken up with people trying to reason with Giancarlothomaz. I reckon if everyone had them on ignore (like I have for the past couple of years), the server space saved could power a second internet.

I know it's not cool singling people out, I don't like to do it, and I've stopped myself numerous times from doing so, but jeez-louise, take a step back and give some thought to how much time you've put into considering their posts and trying to talk sense with them.

@gcunit
TBH I wouldn't have said as much as I did if I hadn't seen the same bit repeated three places by different people. Also I was killing time waiting for my shiny new TV to be delivered

Speaking of, OLED and surround sound. I think I'll be OK without a hardware revision for a bit. This is enough of an upgrade for now.....

Just got my hands on Jitsu Squad. What a flashy, vibrant, colorful beat'em up. Great first impression. Although, I began with the staff wielding green frog dude. And with every attack he makes the stereotypical kung fu "wat-ah" sound...and I can't help but feel this is mildly racist somehow, lol.

The security breach mainly concerns Splatoon 1-3, Super Mario Maker 2, Mario Kart 7, 8, and 8 Deluxe, Animal Crossing: NH, ARMS, and Nintendo Switch Sports.

If you've played any of those games recently it wouldn't be a terrible idea to change your account password. Especially if you have a credit card or Paypal linked to your Nintendo account.

@Magician oh no! i played one of this games(Animal Crossing)