Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

These rumours sound promising, and help alleviate the bad news of (potentially) no Zelda at launch.

People have suggested that the Switch come bundled with Mario Kart, but I think Splatoon would be just as good. The Wii U original was excellent, and I think Nintendo could really do with promoting it a bit more and establishing it as one of their top IPs.

As for Pokemon...I'm not so hopeful here. This could very easily be another Rumble World, or some other free-to-play title. I wouldn't expect anything from Game Freak, at least.

Whatever people think of the Nintendo Switch launch line-up, regardless of whether Mario Kart and Splatoon are not proper fully fledged sequels, at least Nintendo realised that they absolutely need to bring out the heavy hitters as soon as possible.

As much as I enjoyed Nintendo Land and New Super Mario Bros. U on day one, neither of them were particularly compelling 'must haves', especially considering that New Super Mario Bros. U looked and played all too similar to the Wii version.

In fact, all I can remember about the Wii U launch is the prolonged Rayman Legends delay from February to Autumn, which was also a Wii U exclusive once upon a time too.

A good video explaining how quality is (or should) be better than quantity and why having a good launch window in better than a good launch day.

I'm amaz-oh golly gosh better tame that part down-surprised how many people think getting all of the things ASAP with no long term vision is the right idea.

In my opinion, the real reason why Zelda: BotW is delayed is because Nintendo will see how the console sells during the first 6 months. If the console hasn't projected what Nintendo had hoped they will cut the price of the console and release Zelda: BotW around November, similar timeframe as the Xbox Scorpio.

We really need to see what Nintendo has in store for us, IMO.

If Mario and Zelda are their two hardest hitters for 2017? Then I think they'd be wise to launch with one and have the other out holiday season, building up hype for this game throughout the year.

@Shinion Jim makes a very good point. I'd rather Nintendo prove to us that they can support the Switch by giving us big released on a regular schedule, rather than throw everything at us at once.

On that point: Nintendo has been very concerned with the short-term with its announcements recently, probably rightly so as they've shifted development to the Switch. I really hope that in January we hear of more distant games (e.g. 2018 titles) so that we have more to be excited about in the future, as well as games to be excited about in 2017.

@DefHalan How about all three they need to come in with a bang.
And launch with SNES fire emblem games on vc in all regions

I'm feeling a bit more hopeful after the reveal of the system's launch lineup. We've got some good games coming in the first few months, so I really hope Nintendo has some tricks up their sleeve for the holidays next year. If they do, they might actually succeed with the Switch.

@BiasedSonyFan I agree. They need more than just Mario and a few ports. I'm hoping these reports aren't all there is to the reveal in January. I'm pretty bummed about Zelda, too. I imagine they're going to want to save it for holiday 2017 at this point

I'm kinda bummed about the amount of linearity that the new Mario sounds like it'll have. The lack of linearity is one of the things that made Sunshine so great IMO. The fact that you were forced to take a specific path and do everything in one specific way in Galaxy is part of what made me not even finish that game. The lack of exploration really killed the whole experience. I hope the new Mario either has at least some exploration, or good gameplay to compensate for the lack of it. Here's to hoping they make an HD version of Sunshine at some point. They'd certainly have my money if they did.

If the mod thing for skyrim is true, then I'm surprised. Of course, it doesn't beat Microsoft more lax restriction on the mods, but considering I never even expected a game like skyrim anyway, it's a big step forward for Nintendo.

But it's not a video about that. It's a video about how quality is more important than volume. And how a console needs a sustained schedule of games more than it needs a good launch. I don't see how the Switch being rumoured to have a good launch with quality games is therefore a bad thing. Yes it will also need games for the second half of 2017 also but having games at launch doesn't automatically mean it won't have games for later in the year.

@BiasedSonyFan I don't think anyone is saying that Nintendo should focus on ports/remasters. Of course the Switch needs to stand on its own and have an original library with brand new titles.

...but Nintendo should still do ports and remasters. I see absolutely no reason why Splatoon, Smash Bros and Mario Kart 8 should not come to the Switch in some form. I'm sure many people who didn't have a Wii U would happily pick these up on the Switch. Heck, I bet a significant portion of people who bought them on the Wii U would buy them again, if only for the portability, or to continue playing while their Wii U retires. Also think of the multiplayer...Smash and Mario Kart in particular could benefit a lot from spontaneous sessions from, say, taking to Switch with you to a friend's house. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Switch versions of these games outsold the originals.

And the content is all there, it just needs porting. It doesn't necessarilly have to take any focus away from creating new games. In fact, didn't Aonuma or Miyamoto say that experimentation with the Wind Waker HD aided them in the development of BotW?

I'm super happy about the games they're porting over. I never bought a Wii U because it was such a failure, but I was a bit bummed that I never got to play those games. I'm glad I'll get a chance to with the Switch.

And if I may add, nobody's asking for a billion games on day one either. It's understandable that a Wii U port isn't the mot exciting thing for people who already played them. Generally speaking, people thought that the Wii U launch was kinda underwhelming, and that system launched with 30+ games. So asking for another game besides Mario and a Wii U port isn't that weird at all.

Now, on the actual rumours, as far as I understand them, the Switch is rumoured to launch with Splatoon and Mario, right? That's the opposite of what I expected. Mario Kart and Zelda would've made more sense to me, since Mario Kart has a far bigger appeal than any of those games, and Zelda accompanies Mario Kart better than ''another'' Mario game. I also expected Zelda to be ready by launch, especially since they've been teasing the game for this long and since they focused an entire E3 on that game. I thought that the only thing holding it back at this point was the Switch launch, I guess not..

@KirbyTheVampire Don't get me wrong, but that's a weird reason, isn't it? Console sales shouldn't be a factor when you buy a system. I understand if you were disappointed with the lack of support that the system got and I hope that's what you meant, because actual unit sales don't change the way the system plays in any way shape or form.

I won't mind WII U remasters as there a few games I haven't got and now the non backwards compatibility has been confirmed, I'm no longer buying WII U games as expect quite a few to be ported over. Likewise I've held off buying Dragon Quest Builders and World of Final Fantasy in the hope they both get given the switch treatment.

@Octane The lack of 3rd party games was the main reason, yes. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo IMO makes the best first party games, but I also want a decent amount of games from other companies. I did consider buying one after the first few years, but having seen the general lack of success and the NX rumors, I decided to hold off. The Switch is looking a lot more promising in terms of 3rd party support, and even though I don't expect it to reach Xbone or PS4 level, I still know I'll have more fun with it than I ever would with a PS4 or Xbone. The other systems are great, and I certainly got my money's worth from my PS3, but I've always loved Nintendo's games way more than games from other companies.

@BiasedSonyFan Personally speaking, a brand new Super Mario game that is supposedly a blend of Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Galaxy is already a system seller to me, providing that it ends up being just as good as the two games that it's inspired by.

I too am a bit ho-hum about 'enchanced' Wii U ports, but having Mario Kart and Splatoon right out of the gates as well as a remixed Super Smash Bros somewhere down the launch window - along with Breath of the Wild too - is so much more compelling than enduring a repeat of the Nintendo Land and New Super Mario Bros. U situation.

I'm not worried about the first party line up at all. It's the third party line up, or the lack of, that I am concerned about.

I seriously hope they don't do an avalanche of Wii U ports, that would be underwhelming to say the least. We need new games for the new console. This is one thing Nintendo doesn't need to go copycat their competitors.
I'm getting sick of all this "Oh, but they should port it all from Wii U because most people never got the chance to play those games" arguments. I beg your pardon, the Wii U has been available on store everywhere for the better part of 4 years. Maybe people on Vietnam or North Korea didn't get a chance to buy one, but I'm pretty sure everyone on this forum got that chance. I got my Deluxe Set for a mere 180 € in 2013 for heaven's sake. People just didn't want to. And with that they wavered the chance to play these amazing games. That ship has long sailed, it's time to embark on a new one. Nintendo has to take us to bold new creative destinations, not having us stuck in a merry-go-round of remasters, no thank you.

/rant

The Nintendo Switch will sell a ton if games like Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Skyrim, Splatoon and a new innovation are released at launch. By new innovation, I mean something not seen much of before, like how the Wii had Wii Sports.

@Samurai_Goroh By that logic, no game should be rereleased on any system, ever. And Nintendo were doing remasters well before the competition (Super Mario All Stars, GBA SNES rereleases, etc.)

They've had the chance? What if they can't afford to (or simply don't want to) buy a console for 2 games that interest them? What if they don't have space for another console? What if they had other things going on during the Wii U's life cycle which meant they did not have time / money / resources to play these game? What if they simply did not know of these games at their original release?

To reiterate, obviously it's bad if they rerelease games at the expense of purely novel releases. But I really don't think this has to be, or will be, the case.