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Haruki_NLI

@Nonno_Umby That....the CPU? Holy mother of...is Nintendo chasing actual processing power and not gtaphical power? The bottleneck of the PS4? HO damn count me in.

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Shinion

So I go away for a day and we're now at the "Pokémon inflates Nintendo's hardware sales disproportionately" stage

.............

Ohmanohmanohmanohmanohmanohmanohman

Seriously it's kind of fascinating seeing these trains of thought. But seriously oh man.

Shinion

Moshugan

@IceClimbers @Samurai_Goroh @Octane @Operative @MumboJumbo
I did some calculations a while back. The data is from Wikipedia.

Wii U has sold 13.36 million consoles and 84.04 million games. That means that Wii U has sold approx 6 games per console.
3DS has sold 61.57 million consoles and 244.86 million games. That's only about 4 games per console!
If we assumed that 3DS has also the same average of 6 games per owner, then 244.86 divided by 6 would make for 40.81 unique 3DS owners.

These figures are pretty rough, but they give some kind of idea of where 3DS sales might be at.

The rest of the data can be viewed here if you're interested:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_xR-Cm0_i1xrefp23nUy1...

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Grumblevolcano

@Moshugan Interesting, you can also identify the key 4 3DS games and 6 key Wii U games from that. For 3DS:

  • Pokemon X and Y
  • Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire
  • Mario Kart 7
  • Super Mario 3D Land

While for Wii U it's:

  • Mario Kart 8
  • New Super Mario Bros. U
  • Super Mario 3D World
  • Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
  • Splatoon
  • Super Mario Maker

I'm counting the Pokemon pairs as 1 each rather than 2 each as the typical consumer will only buy 1 game out of the pair.

I think we can safely say that 3DS would've struggled if there wasn't any main series Pokemon games coming to it.

Grumblevolcano

FragRed

@Nonno_Umby That second tweet means nothing, it could merely be indie developers with games that require little CPU/GPU resources who are moving games over to the Switch. Doesn't really say anything about what the hardware is capable of achieving.

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rallydefault

Whitewatermoose wrote:

Moshugan wrote:

@IceClimbers @Samurai_Goroh @Octane @Operative @MumboJumbo
I did some calculations a while back. The data is from Wikipedia.

Wii U has sold 13.36 million consoles and 84.04 million games. That means that Wii U has sold approx 6 games per console.
3DS has sold 61.57 million consoles and 244.86 million games. That's only about 4 games per console!
If we assumed that 3DS has also the same average of 6 games per owner, then 244.86 divided by 6 would make for 40.81 unique 3DS owners.

These figures are pretty rough, but they give some kind of idea of where 3DS sales might be at.

The rest of the data can be viewed here if you're interested:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_xR-Cm0_i1xrefp23nUy1...

The attach rate for Wii u may be the highest attach rate of all time.

So it tells you either Wii U had really good software, or Nintendo fans were very loyal to Nintendo product, for an attach rate like that.

Well, anecdotally, I bought more games for the Wii U than any other console I've ever owned, and that's because the games rocked AND I wanted to support my favorite company. Probably a similar story for many of us.

rallydefault

Samurai_Goroh

Anecdotally, I have bought twice as much games on Wii than on Wii U. So I don't think that ratio is something to brag about.

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Samurai_Goroh

Peek-a-boo

rallydefault wrote:

Well, anecdotally, I bought more games for the Wii U than any other console I've ever owned, and that's because the games rocked AND I wanted to support my favorite company. Probably a similar story for many of us.

Nintendo are a business, not your friend. They want your money, not your friendship.

I personally bought the Wii U and at least twelve different games because I just so happen to enjoy playing some of their games, not because I wanted to support a company who will carry on just fine (if I didn't).

There's nothing better than having an open mind when it comes to videogames.

Peek-a-boo

Octane

Couldn't agree more. I'm not going to buy games just to support a company.

Octane

Haruki_NLI

@Peek-a-boo @Octane

Gonna just throw something out here. The use of the word "And". This denotes an additional. In this case, a second pre-requisite for purchases. The primary requisite given was the games appealed to the consumer, the secondary requisite was wanting to support a company. Therefore, in this case, believing they were deserving of custom. You /want/ to give them your custom /because/ the games appealed to him, not one or the other. And with regards to what @Octane said, it wasn't just to support a company, otherwise he wouldn't have had to requisites for giving them money for something he wanted and believed they deserved said money for.

I don't actively say I want to support Sony. I'll never give money to an establishment because they need it, but rather I feel they deserve it and therefore would be deserving of an indication from me, the consumer, that this is appealing content and products to sell to me. As a result, they'll keep doing it nd keeping producing things that I want (Hopefully). In the Sony example I personally have experienced, I bought Ratchet and Clank, not because Sony is something I need to support, but that I wanted to support them producing such a thing, as it was appealing to me, and therefore they were deserving of my custom.

I believe that is the point @rallydefault was aiming to make.

Or you'll just rip me a new one like many do and say I'm talking out my behind. Your choice. I just like rationalising things.

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Shinion

And now this place has taken another weird angle. Don't know why people should be questioning how/why people spend their money, if Joe Bloggs (not even referring to anyone here just generalising) wants to buy anything/everything that such-and-such a company puts out there then I'd like to think that the best people are the ones who don't try and shame Mr Bloggs. It ain't my problem, it shouldn't be yours and if good ol' Joe specifically says they're happy spending their money this way then I don't get the distaste.

So you're not a 'fanboy' and you have "an open mind".... you want a cookie? Seriously when ever are these "I'm a better gamer than you because such-and-such blah-malarkey" debates ever worth having? Let people do what they want. Yeesh.

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Shinion

Azooooz

I want to give you an interesting point I've found. I don't know if it will make a difference, but supposedly, the game cartridges or game card as it's called would reduce the amount of power the Switch needs to run the game. That way, it can prolong the battery life for a bit, unlike using a hard drive or anything that has magnetic or disc spinning mechanism, which needs extra juice to run efficiently. Combining that with Nvidia's recent power-efficient architecture like Pascal, we may see the console hold up between 4-6 hours of gaming. But that's my assumption, so till we hear more info about the console, we'll keep creating these assumptions.

Making promise is easy. The hard part is keeping it.

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MumboJumbo

Samurai_Goroh wrote:

I liked very much what I saw of Breath of the Wild, but I'm just not buying a Switch for it. Now if a brand new Super Mario 3D Switch or a new game from Retro is available at the launch window, I'm a happy camper.

Emily Rogers says 3D Mario is practically finished, based on what's she's been hearing for the past few months. It's a lot further along in development than we all think. The chances of a 3D Mario being a day 1 launch title is just as good, if not better than Zelda.

https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/794948366228746240

[Edited by MumboJumbo]

MumboJumbo

Azooooz

There was a rumour that Nintendo Switch reveal was going to be on September, but they delayed it to October because Mario Switch game wasn't running well. Can anyone provide us with the link?

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MumboJumbo

@Azooooz

Mario NX wasn't running perfectly in September, but it is running perfectly now.

MumboJumbo

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