Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

Where you read this? I only found Cap saying they want to expand Monster Hunter beyond handhelds.

@MarcelRguez I was talking about the absolute core of Nintendo fans, and I don't think said core is much larger than the Wii U 13.5 millions userbase.
And the early adopters on any product tend to be that core. So I think Nintendo should not open the floodgates of ports on the first month of the Switch, rather they should release them at less critical months throughtout the year and better alleviate the common software droughts.
I liked very much what I saw of Breath of the Wild, but I'm just not buying a Switch for it. Now if a brand new Super Mario 3D Switch or a new game from Retro is available at the launch window, I'm a happy camper.

Also the Wii U launched with a ton of ports. Not 1st party as it is advocated here, but 3rd party games. It didn't do it any good and I would say that people in general buy new hardware for new and exciting software, not for the definitive edition of last years' hits.

The 3DS is proof enough that the core Nintendo fanbase is larger than that. The Wii U install base is only a fraction of Nintendo's core fanbase.

@IceClimbers You are aware that 60 millions 3DS sold is not the same as 60 million 3DS owners? How many here have bought several models, for instance?

And again I'm talking about the CORE of Nintendo's consumers. Just because someone bought a 3DS does not mean they feel particularly attached to the Nintendo brand and are inclined to buy Nintendo in the future. This is true for all consoles and brands, there is a large fluctuating pool of consumers with no assigned loyalties or preferences towards a particular brand. The PS4 is selling what it sells because many jumped ship from the Xbox 360, for instance. Sony does not have 40 million of core loyal fans, either. The 3DS sold also to some people who jumped ship from the PSP.

I have no doubt that eventually I will buy a Switch. It is only a matter of when, and Nintendo needs people like me to be early adopters in order to drive momentum early and convince the majority sitting on the fence about it.

@Samurai_Goroh I'm well aware of that, but calling the Wii U's install base the "core" of Nintendo's consumers seems incredibly short-sighted when the 3DS has a much larger install base. The logical conclusion is that not all of Nintendo's core consumers bought a Wii U.

It does mean that there are at most only 13 million people that are willing to buy every Nintendo device. I'd wager the actual number is far less than that though.

Yeah, I think the wii u really shows just how many Nintendo loyal are left. It's likely Very few wii u owners are people that don't usually buy Nintendo products

I, for once, wish Nintendo to keep some bloggers' mouths shut by paying them a hefty amount of money, so that we wouldn't hears some disturbing information from them.

I kinda suspect that Nintendo will port a decent chunk of its Wii U software over to Switch.

@BiasedSonyFan
The problem with what you're saying is that it ignores one crucial point. PC gaming sites a few years ago now started pointing to cards and saying "this is all you need for 1080p gaming". Cards above that spec were for 2K/4K gaming. The price of that card has been dropping and it's now in the PS4 Pro.

Now I can't speak for the psychology of all of this. I'm also not sure if there will be a graphical detail boom that will need far more power. But I do know that with current games there is a pretty hard limit to the amount of power needed for 1080p. And we're there already but not with the switch or PS4 standard. So what else can happen from here? Eventually nobody will care anymore. Smaller and cheaper consoles will happen in the next 10 years with or without Sony

I can hear alarm bells ringing in the distance.

I assume that means less raw power, but better efficiency.

@IceClimbers
There are a few things which inflate the size of the 3DS install base.

• The mainline Pokemon series which is selling 10-15 million
• Repeat buyers of hardware revisions which could make up 10-15 million
• Major 3rd-party franchises like Monster Hunter and Yokai Watch which are selling 3-4 million
• Smaller 3rd-party franchises like Professor Layton and Dragon Quest which are selling over 1 million

What's left over is a core Nintendo audience that isn't much larger than the current install base of the Wii U.

@MumboJumbo None of those things inflate the numbers except for the repeat buyers due to hardware revisions/special editions.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Image & Form said in reply to a question on Twitter the other day that while they can't say anything about specs,Nintendo are definitely not skimping on power.Them saying that gave me a little confidence that it will at least be a decent step up from Wii U.That tweet you just posted has me a little worried again though.

@IceClimbers
We're discussing Nintendo's core audience here. The people who are buying Nintendo's systems to play Nintendo's 1st-party titles. The core Nintendo audience on the 3DS is not as large as you think when you take Pokemon and major 3rd-party franchises out of the equation. Hardware revisions just skew the numbers further.

Why? We already know it's a portable system. The thing isn't going to be competing with the PS4 on power. It's not rocket science.

Powerful, Cheap, Portable

Pick two to focus on. It can be powerful and portable but it won't be very cheap. It can be cheap and portable but it won't be very powerful. It can be powerful and cheap but it won't be very portable. We know from the trailer that it's going to be more portable than the PS4/XBOne. So that means they're sacrificing either the cost or the power. Given I don't expect this to cost $800US? I think we can take an educated guess.

It could be the CPU itself which explains the riddle-esque nature of this tweet., upon taking criticism from the low CPU from the WiiU the Switch seems to be over-correcting it on the plane that not even the PlayStation and Xbox can go against. As I saw from a youtube comment from this video below me.

@MumboJumbo The point here is there's no reason to factor those out. You're coming up with inflation where it doesn't exist. The people who buy those 3rd party games on 3DS are the core Nintendo fans, and Pokemon is a Nintendo franchise.

Wait, let's not forget this: