Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@JaxonH a miss in design is still a bug. A bug doesn't need to be the code doing erroneous things per se, but can be missed functionality or undefined behavior. Or as Wikipedia summarize it "A software bug is an error, flaw, failure or fault in a computer program or system that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways."

In your case, it is clearly not the intended behavior since you are allowed to change SD-cards, therefor the switch should handle it in a correct way without you having to jumping trough hoops. Unless of course it is the intended way to solve that issue, then it isn't a bug but a stupid design choice. Either way, Nintendo should fix it.

And why are you arguing if it isn't worth arguing?

Has anyone noticed any Black Friday deals for pro controller in the States? My friend was thinking about one for a while.

@Therad
That's actually not right. MY intended use is irrelevant. What's relevant is Nintendos intended use.

Missing features are not bugs. I'm sorry but, they're just not. You're wrong about this and that's all there is to it. It's not an unintended consequence, it's simple lack of foresight or lack of caring to provide the feature.

I'm not sure why you're arguing with me about this anyways, unless you feel going back and forth with someone over what constitutes a bug is a valuable use of your time on this earth. It's something they should be providing but aren't. That's all that matters. And I agree something should be said to them about it. But this very well could be intentional as with most of their backwards, limiting choices with regard to the system.

@JaxonH Pretty sure the hardware revision that @Nemodius is referring to is the one that fixed the hardware exploit. But that's on Nvidia, not Nintendo. That revision has less of a difference to the end user than the second GBA SP model though

@IceClimbers
Ya, I knew what he was referring to, but it was a completely separate thing that's irrelevant to the discussion. Small updates like that happen all the time. The topic was whether Nintendo would release a new model to boost sales, and the timeframes of such a revision.

Preload for Onimusha Warlords is live on the US eShop. $19.99, 9.6GB.

@JaxonH Fair enough. Anyways WoFF Maxima is at #10 on the eShop chart. Been doing pretty well. So has that Taiko game despite being really niche and $50.

@JaxonH @IceClimbers Good to see WoFF is charting well for now. It didn't feel that way.

The thing is, it's at #10 and that's all of its sales. Typically a game selling well will release physically, accounting for 90% of its sales, and still hit #10 on the eShop. So hitting 10 when all of its sales are combined seems pretty lackluster imo. If it was at 10 on top of a physical release, then I'd say it's on its way to several hundred thousand sales. But eShop only? 10% of that at best.

This month's Splatoon 2 Splatfest is Salsa vs Guacamole. Though I don't like both, but I choose salsa. Which team did anyone choose on Splatoon 2?

@Alantor28 has to be salsa for me - it takes the ingredients and makes them MUCH better. I like guacamole, but I love avocado on everything in it’s base (or ‘unevolved’) form, perhaps even more so than the greenest of nacho dips?

As if to prove a point! If any of the three people who read this (ha - yes i’m Flattering myself! ) liked the sound of ‘This war of mine’ from the brief mention above, it’s ridiculously discounted on Steam for 24 hours (again) and - let’s be honest - probably will be for Black Friday/holiday sales anyway?

Appreciate we all have way too many games to play right now, but i still recommend it at some point if you fancy a complete change of pace - it’s actually quite harrowing but still oddly rewarding, just not at the shop price (launches 28/11 on switch).

Tomato sauce vs soap. I know which one I'm picking.

Well, it's the 24 hour countdown (basically) until Pokémon and Civilization.

Any excitement for these games? Two completely different games aimed at gamers at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Still not sure what to make of Pokémon. I mean, it looks fun to me as someone who never got into the series, but at the same time I'm not hugely excited. I'd say moderately... Moderately while hoping I'm pleasantly surprised. If anything, I'm still gonna give the series an honest go next year, even if I don't enjoy this one.

Civ is hype though. Civilization VI, Diablo 3, Dark Souls, Monster Hunter Gen Ult, Dragonball Fighter Z and Valkyria Chronicles 1 and 4 really made the 2nd half of this year worthwhile (and Xenoblade 2 Torna, but that's first party). 3rd parties stepping up and filling the Switch gaps nicely. Had it not been for these excellent 3rd party games, the second half of the year wouldn't have been nearly as exciting. I mean, Pokémon and Smash is great and all, but I'm not super big into either franchise, but I am into Monster Hunter. I am into Dark Souls. I am into Diablo. I am into Valkyria Chronicles 4. Oh, and Okami HD. Ya ya, it's an old game that's been around the block. Sure. But it's a classic. And being on Switch, looking so dang good, with proper motion and touch controls... it's a perfect fit on Switch. I remember being pretty bummed thinking it wasn't coming. Just goes to show even the oldest, most ported games of all time are still hype on this system. It's impossible for a great game not to be. Maybe on other platforms, but not on Switch. It's just too awesome having them in handheld-console format.

I will say though, Smash looks pretty freakin rad. Even though it's not my favorite series, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited for this one.

All about backlog until Smash, focusing on Hyrule Warriors Legends and XC2 NG+ meanwhile Odyssey whenever the Hint Art and Costumes appear.

@subpopz Switch is a HD system meanwhile the previous handhelds were SD though, pretty sure what we're seeing is a natural result of HD development.

I’m waiting to see people’s late-game experience with Civ before considering it (AI turns can take a fair old while), even then I think i’ll be holding off until the expansion (hopefully) gets ported further down the line.

Controls and the even greater lack of difficulty have put me off pokemon. Anything with the original 151 immediately appeals more to me, but I don’t think i’m really the target audience for this one so happy to pass.

I am very interested in Civ VI, but I have to admit to misguidedly thinking it was an RTS, rather than the turn-based game that it is (I'm also not a huge fan of the new art style for the series).

As such I'd rather try before I buy. Might have to finally give my Civ4 copy on Steam a go.

I do plan on getting Pokemon at some point. Maybe after Christmas. But I'm not hugely excited for it.

Honestly, I couldn't be less hyped about Civ.

The only games I care about before 2019 are SEGA AGES: Phantasy Star, Sega Genesis Classics, and Smash. And I'm still debating if I'm getting the last one at launch.

CIV IV is a different kind of beast though. They have revamped many of the systems such as the entire army system, maps, religion and techs.

I suggest looking at a youtuber or two.

@gcunit, I know that the IOS version of Civ 6 is free for the first 60 turns. If you have access to an iPad it might be worth to give that a go until you have to pay any money

@Farmboy74 Thanks for the tip. My work phone has IOS so I might look into seeing if I can get it to install on there.

@Therad I'll keep that in mind too, thanks.