Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

I hear you. I don't have a Wii U but I'm looking forward to upcoming 3DS games. Top on my list are Mario Maker and Pokemon Sun/Moon.

@Grumblevolcano I'm just looking at getting Federation Force when my wages come in, getting Moon for myself, Sun for my girlfriend, NES Mini in November and Paper Mario obviously. As well as my PC with the i7 and GTX970 + 16GB RAM and 256GB of SSD sweet speedy space. XD I'm such a dork.

@rallydefault I really hope they can explain it. I can read between lines, hence I don't cut any company any slack and I can be gifted with foresight to seemingly predict Sony BS a mile away, so the reveal doesn't worry me, but it does concern me that the concept will be undersold. Or oversold. Or overshadowed. Over over over. I should stress this PC I'm spending well over £1000 on isn't for gaming. It's recording, uploading and editing YouTube stuff, and the actual process of making games, both commercially and for university (Screw CryENGINE, like...really.)

I guess that counts as gaming. I'm doing it mainly because A) I can, and B) To finally get my housemates to shut up about me not being part of the master race, so I'm getting a superior build to all of them (As I found out today), out of the box without needing to build. And then Ill just be as always, ill just have a rather future proofed system to work on for a few years, and play games as I always have.

I can see it being a thing. It would also resolve a lot of the issues that the 3DS and DS have had since the start. On the DS you either had stacked screens with a gap in the middle or you went in book mode with a wide aspect and lost the buttons. On the 3DS it was the same except book mode killed the 3D.

The NX as rumoured thus far? We know so far we have the full wide-aspect "book mode" without a gap in the middle and with full controls. We also have a "vertical" stacked screen mode again without the gap. So the only mode it's missing is the standard DS/3DS vertical mode with full controls.

But, it has a 720p screen which is about 5x the number of pixels as the 3DS. It's ARM based already, it has the right number of buttons, it has the screens. The controller placement is the only thing really stopping full BC and you can remove those controllers. So why not allow you to move them from the sides to the top/bottom for 3DS/DS BC/VC?

FINAL NX REVEAL AND SYSTEM PREDICTIONS

• "Gemicom" as the system's final name, Gemi(ni)+(Fam)icom
• First two Gemicom devices are shown off which are the "Gemicom Portable" and "Gemicom Base"
• The Gemicom Base's controller is a traditional controller but it'll also be compatible with the Wii Remote which will be rebranded as the "Nintendo Remote"
• Pikmin 4 is the first game running on Gemicom shown to public
• The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild has a comparison shown for both Gemicom and Wii U
• Gemicom is not backwards compatible due to technical reasons (as much as I would love BC) but the Gemicom gets a "Wii U Hits" line starting with Nintendo Land, Splatoon, and Super Mario Maker
• Gemicom's "Virtual Console" is renamed "Classics" with NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, DS, Turbografx-16, Sega Genesis/MD, and arcade games being available at launch
• "Classics" from handhelds will have Download Play at launch and Nintendo Network compatibility is added to DS and Wii games that used Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection
• Pokemon Sun & Moon come to Gemicom along with 3DS and becomes the first cross-gen generation of Pokemon
• Super Smash Bros. for Gemicom is revealed which is the 3DS and Wii U games combined into one with additional content including Wolf, Ice Climbers, and Inkling
• The first trailer for "Super Mario Emprise", the new 3D Mario is shown
• It's release date is in March with every reigon being less than a week apart
• Third party developers are not forced to optimize their games for both the Gemicom Portable and Gemicom Base but all first party Nintendo games will run on both
• It'll have the eShop, Mii Maker, Check Mii Out, StreetPass Mii Plaza, Internet Browser, Netflix, Multimedia Hub, Nintendo Badge Arcade, Pokemon Bank, and Flipnote Studio at launch
• "Missions" become the Gemicom's equivalent to "Achievements" and "Trophies"
• A Gemicom VR headset is revealed and will launch later in 2017

GEMICOM GAME PREDICTIONS

• The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (launch day)
• Pikmin 4 (launch day)
• Wii U Hits: Nintendo Land (launch day)
• Wii U Hits: Splatoon (launch day)
• Wii U Hits: Super Mario Maker (launch day)
• Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare (launch day)
• Darksiders: Warmastered Edition (launch day)
• Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 (launch day)
• Just Dance 2017 (launch day)
• Lego Dimensions (launch day)
• NBA 2K17 (launch day)
• Pac-Man Championship Edition 2 (launch day)
• Skylanders Imaginators (launch day)
• Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3 (launch day)
• Tank It! (launch day)
• Tekken 7 (launch day)
• WWE 2K17 (launch day)
• Dragon Quest X Online (Japanese launch day)
• Animal Crossing (working title)
• Beyond Good and Evil: The Prejudices of Philosophers
• Bit Boy!! 3 (working title)
• Cruis'n Adventure
• Dragon Quest Builders
• Dragon Quest IX (remake)
• Dragon Quest XI
• Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
• Indivisible
• Luigi's Mansion 3 (working title)
• Mario Sports Superstars (has cross-platform online with the 3DS version)
• Mech Super eXtended
• Mighty Switch Force! The Patricia Wagon Collection (Hyper Drive Edition, 2: Hydro Deluxe Edition, and Academy)
• Minecracft: Gemicom Edition
• Pac-Man VS Supreme (also includes Pac-Man Battle Royale, 256 and the original Pac-Man)
• Project CARS
• Project Sonic 2017 (working title)
• PUZZLEBOX setup
• RISE: Race The Future
• RIVE
• Riverside
• Retro Studios Project (working title)
• Shantae: Three Wishes Collection (Risky's Revenge - Director's Cut, Pirate's Curse, and Half-Genie Hero)
• Shovel Knight (includes all of content of both the 3DS version and Wii U version)
• Sonic Mania
• Steamworld Collection
• Super Mario Emprise
• SUPER ROBO MOUSE
• Super Smash Bros. for Gemicom
• The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD (from Tantalus Media)
• Terraria
• Tomodachi Life: Living it Up
• WarioWare DIYA (the "A" stands for "Again")
• World to the West

EDIT: Added more predicted games

between the tv play, the multitouch screnn, and detachable phyiscal control pads, controls could make nx a pain to develop for. nintendo always finds a way to complicate it lol.

Only if developers want to use those features. At its core the default configuration is a single 16:9 display with two analogues, D-Pad, A/B/X/Y, triggers etc. Pretty standard stuff really.

@skywake kinda the same for the Wii U, but developers kept saying how they didn't want to develop for Wii U because they didn't know what to do with the GamePad.

A) bad excuse, Off-TV play was enough for tons of people.
B)Normally just used as an excuse when they actually just didn't want to put the effort in

@CrazyOtto

No Fifa im out

This has always been my hybrid concept. The extra power in the base thing was a counter hypothesis that could offset the power some believed it would lack.

Basically, if any portable is any matter of significance better than Wii u, I consider it great enough for the big screen.

Some disagreed, which led to the theory you quoted.

I also believe it to be a handheld with TV capabilities. Nintendo's handhelds have always been their best sellers. Time to tip the scales!

@Grumblevolcano
Yea, I was actually planning on finally buying a New 3DS for Sun/Moon, but now that the NX is just over the horizon, and it's looking more and more like a portable first, home console second, I don't know if I want to spend the money. I'm afraid it may be wasted.

Maybe I'll just buy a 2DS for 90 bucks or whatever just for around the house.

@rallydefault understandable since there's a pretty good chance NX is going to cost US$250.

Just reverting back to the Emily Rogers specs rumour:

I think 720p and 32gb of hard drive is fine. Likewise, I think also being lower than the Xbox/PS4 is fine too. Whilst those graphics won't get third party support (but I don't think Nintendo are seriously interested in acquiring that), it won't prevent Nintendo style games looking fantastic. Nintendo often goes with a cartoony art style that is graphically less intensive so doesn't need massive power under the hood for what they aim to develop. However, I do hope that 32gb is just one of two options (the other being 64gb or 128gb perhaps?), and that when hooked up to the dock, the games play at 1080p. Neither of those would be deal breakers for me personally, but I think it will help sell the idea to people a little more.

The things that will make or break this device though aren't that above but are:

1) the controllers. It concerns me about the parallels draw to the wiimotes. I'll reserve judgment until I see it but I don't like the wiimotes and think personally it's something Nintendo should distance themselves from. Even if there are other control options available, I think a new wiimote bundled with the hardware could spell trouble

2) the games. Likely Nintendo have spent a lot of time sorting this out for launch. We already know BotW is coming and hopefully there will be some other big titles too. I'm confident Nintendo will get this aspect right, but they really need to. They need to aim to have at least two major A titles a year with a number of respectable and well liked B titles too. This is something the Wii U didn't achieve.

3) the price. Whilst I said the specs/resolution/power aren't going to make or break this thing as I think they are good for what is primarily a handheld- at the same time something that doesn't achieve 1080p or offer much storage does sound a little on the budget side. So Nintendo need to price it as such. Anything above $249 is going to kill sales imo.

@dtjive i'd say at this point it's 80% going to be US $250. Nintendo will probably use the specs, concept, likely included dock, likely free online, and hopefully good lineup to justify the price.

@CrazyOtto Well what about animal crossing gemicom and amiibo support

Thank you, I forgot to put down that one.

@WebHead I think it would be a much better value at $250 than the 3DS was at launch, plus we aren't knee deep in a recession like we were back then.

@IceClimbers I'd argue the games would decide whether that's true. 3DS also had the situation of a big drought until holiday 2011 and even then the console didn't realize its potential until early 2013.

If the power rumors are true, for a handheld that'd be pretty great. But considering they clearly plan on the 3ds getting most of the attention for the next year as far as their handhelds go, I think they'll be presenting the NX as a home console first and foremost, regardless of its portable capabilities. At which point, the power is pretty disappointing.

That said, $250 would be a good sweet spot. I'd pay that much. But then again I paid that much for a 3DS so I'm not very good at judging worthy prices.

@Grumblevolcano That part was assumed. Yes, the games definitely matter. Zelda BotW already makes it better than the 3DS's launch lineup.