Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

I guess the Sonic games will join VS Super Mario Bros. in taking over the eshop charts.

Come on, no Taxman version of Sonic 3 and Knuckles? I'm not even a huge fan of Sonic 1-3 compared to CD, but seriously Sonic 3 and Knuckles needs the Taxman treatment too.

@Grumblevolcano Unless of course it works like some of the Sega Collections on Steam or the pinball games on Switch, where you'd get the Sega Ages framework software for free and then the individual games as DLC.

This news makes me so happy. The 3DS received amazing arcade ports of Outrun and Afterburner so it's likely these Switch releases won't be limited to Megadrive classics. Arcade Outrun remastered in HD with wide-screen at 60fps with extra content and online leaderboards is a tantalising and not unrealistic prospect. Plus Thunderforce IV, get in there ya dancer!

60fps Virtua Racing in HD with wide-screen and online leaderboards. Please make this happen M2.

@DarthNocturnal I did a quick Google search and there was some reason why they couldn't do it. Be it legal issues or whatever, it still really sucks.

https://nintendoeverything.com/square-enix-on-why-dragon-ques...

“We first announced the game before the Switch was even named the Switch, because we wanted fans to know we were working on that version. As the console started to come into focus, we found out that the engine and the console did not work together yet. Throughout development of the game, we worked with Epic and Nintendo to make progress to get the game on the Switch.”

Hmmmm, well at least SE is giving more info on why Switch is slower I guess...?

Hopefully this game will be released in near future

I'm OK with Sega Ages so long as we at least get Phantasy Star II and IV. Hopefully Toejam and Earl joins that list as well.

@kkslider5552000 I’ve thought about this before.
If the Switch goes on to sell 100million+ (unlikely, but let’s just theorize) will we hit a point where developers scale back their games to get them to run on Switch?

As someone that’s not entirely invested on Switch that’s a scary thought.
What a lot of people seem to forget is that more power doesn’t just mean pretty graphics.
A game can run better, AI is smarter, the game world can be more ‘alive’, less loading screens, bigger worlds, more things can take place at the same time... .

You always have to move the medium forward.

God of War currently sits at a 95 on metacritic (83) & people have been calling it the ‘game of the generation’ & genre defining.
The Witcher 3 would not be possible if it was made with the Switch in mind. I don’t even like the game that much (thought it was good), but even I can recognise that the Witcher 3 sets the bar to what an open world game should be & how it’s side quests should be handled.

Having said that, I don’t think AAA developers/publishers will solely focus on getting their games to run on Switch first.
More often than not graphics sell a game. This is the reason why we’re still stuck with 30FPS.
Also if games were ‘scaled back’ it would almost certainly be reflected in the reviews & impact sales.

Anyways it’s an interesting point you make, but I don’t see the industry heading that way.
Pretty graphics, sell a game.

The issue of power is also why I’m fairly certain that the Switch’s life cycle will be shorter than usual.

https://www.dualshockers.com/wolfenstein-ii-the-new-colossus-...

@Fight_Teza_Fight I still think you’ll have a blast, but the Switch might end up being the least-ideal platform to experience it to its fullest

This is kinda the Switches motto but many including myself don't care. My brother for instance has a PS4 and the convenience of the Switch is too hard for him to pass up. If he is still getting the core experience he will buy it for the Switch first. He never owned a Wii U and has been more Playstaion for the past 10 or so years.

He's not alone in this thinking either as many adults with families and less time to play are able to get back that play time with the Switch.

Well...
Not a big deal for me, since i have No interest with those SEGA games above.

Seems like the Spyro situation again. No reason not to put Shenmue 1&2 on Switch...

@gcunit Yeah and from what they're saying it won't be a graphic overhaul either. They could easily port them to the Switch. Bet they would even see best in Japan on the Switch and maybe that's why perhaps Sony stepped in to make sure they would be the only ones getting it in Japan.

This Sega Ages that is being released for the Switch is a bit concerning. I hope to God it's based on the budget remakes they did years back.

I'm all about those Sega games coming. M2 is the industry leader when it comes to porting retro games. Every single release on switch will be in absolute peak form.

@Spoony_Tech
Ya that's how it is.

In an ideal world, where I had no job, no responsibilities, no friends, and just sat in a room all day playing video games, I would absolutely want the highest power and best graphics possible. Everyone does. Even Switch owners.

It's just... we don't live in a world like that. And as a result, other aspects of the experience are weighted with varying degrees of value. If I sat in a glass cube like a test rat and played games all day, then give me an Xbox One X and PS4 Pro. Without question (but even then, advantages like motion controls would still override that preference). Because in that situation, graphics and power would have the most value. But in the real world, that's just not the case.

I and many others would rather have a console experience which is, in most cases, still 900-1080p and still has smooth movements and animations (which sure, it is a small sacrifice, we fully acknowledge that) but offers that entire gaming experience with the freedom of playing it anywhere, with the freedom of playing it multiple ways, often with added motion or touch or HD Rumble with numerous control scheme setups, with the freedom of playing with anyone on the spot without carrying a second controller around, with a significantly higher quality on-the-go experience as opposed to previous handhelds thanks to the kickstand and detachable controllers, with a seamless transition between all three main modes of play.

I agree there's a place for graphics. It's great seeing games like God of War leverage that for a solid experience (although I think "game of the generation" is a tad hyperbole, especially given they say that for practically every Sony exclusive be it Uncharted, Last of Us, Horizon, Nier, God of War and you can bet they'll say the exact same thing for Spiderman when it drops... high budget games tickle reviewers pink, and while all were genuinely top tier games, none of them held my interest longer than a few hours aside from TLoU, which was legitimately the best survival horror game I've played). So there's definitely a place for that. For power and graphics.

But there's also a place for Switch. And I scratch my head when I hear people worry about things like "games being held back to scale to Switch". Even if that did happen, it would still be leveraging a lot more power on the other systems. Any amount the game was "held back" would be so insignificant in the grand scheme of things it's not going to impact those games in any meaningful way. Games wouldn't likely be "held back" anyways, they would simply be built with Switch in mind for the future, mostly via a cross compatible engine.

At the end of the day, there's 2 kinds of games in my view. Games that hold my interest so much I actually finish them... and games that don't. And ironically, almost every game on my list that I have actually completed, because it was so good it kept me interested all the way to the end... has been on less powerful hardware.

I finished Fire Emblem Awakening, Fire Emblem Fates, Fire Emblem Echoes, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, Monster Hunter Generations, Pikmin 3, DKC Tropical Freeze, Zelda BotW, Zelda Link Between Worlds, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade X, Xenoblade 2, Bayonetta 1 and 2, Resident Evil Revelations, Rayman Legends, Wonderful 101, Zelda Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 1, 2 and 3, New Super Mario Bros U, Mario Kart 8, etc.

But as far as games from systems with "graphics and power", the only ones that actually held my interest long enough to finish this far have been Tomb Raider, Dragon Age Inquisition, The Last of Us, Infamous Second Son, Final Fantasy X, MH World... and that's pretty much it. I've started playing well over 100 games on those platforms. And there's a ton of great games that I genuinely liked but... just didn't hold my interest enough to keep me playing. The only ones I think are good enough to keep me interested, but got neglected for other reasons, are Ori and the Blind Forest, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Valkyria Chronicles. Those I quit playing by no fault of the games themselves. And I fully intend to come back to them, especially once GPD Win 2 releases.

Point being, there's far more games that hold my interest long enough to actually finish on non-power platforms. Which just goes to show power and graphics are only worth so much. At the end of the day it's the game itself that matters most. All the power and graphics in the world aren't going to keep me playing a game I lose interest in. And the most under powered platform in the world won't push me away from playing a game that does hook me, although it could be argued in the case of 3DS that it is starting to impact retention rates. By all rights I should have finished Metroid Samus Returns, I think I'm just to a point where I need a game to be more than 240p. Doesn't have to be 4K, just... Switch level or better.

@Fight_Teza_Fight tbh I think of the Switch more as a secondary console. That's where I get all my Nintendo games and indie games, but I get all my AAA games on Playstation.

Sega AGES? Can’t wait to buy Sonic 1 for the 15th time! But really, this is one of those things, it’s nice to have but can live without. I would like if Sonic 1 (and 2 if they do that also) at least take some notes from the Whitehead versions. Let me spindash in Sonic 1. Let there be online multiplayer in Sonic 2, stuff like that.

Funny, i DID the Opposite.
Right now i have PS4 Slim White, But for The Sims 4 by Majorly. I have PS2 Slim White also, But i rarely use it due to have ever played my old PS2 games (Dance Dance Revolution series by mostly)

I treat my Sony machines as SECONDARY machines (With very few games to play), while All my Nintendo machines (Switch, 3DS, NDS, Wii ) as PRIMARY machines for more than 90 Nintendo games altogether (except for Wii U, Gamecube & GBA i treat them as Secondary)

Sent my switch in for repair and got the dreaded email....

"the issue has made some of the information on this system unreadable.
As a result, the save data, settings, and links with any Nintendo Accounts on your system were unable to be preserved."

Ughhhhhhh Nintendo join us in 2018 and allow save back ups 😑😡😡😡

Oh, gosh.... !!
Be strong, mate.
I'm sorry to hear that.