Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@OorWullie it probably isn't.

I doubt Sony will announce any new PS Vita hardware, or successor. They have essentially given up on it in the west. They are going to focus on the NEO and let Nintendo rule the portable market.

I actually hope he Vita rumor is true. I think Nintendo needs some real competition in the Handheld market. I think sometimes they look at Mobile as their competition and that causes them to adopt certain mobile strategies. With a new Vita, maybe Sony could put some pressure on Nintendo and get Nintendo to stop focusing as much on Mobile.

As I said many times before, competition is always a good thing. It's lot better than when companies have a monopoly on something. So I wouldn't mind if Sony announced another handheld.

I agree. Plus I always do enjoy the Sony handheld hardware. It's just a shame they don't know how to properly support them. I totally wouldn't mind Nintendo making a Sony handheld and Sony making a Nintendo home console. Which wouldn't make any sense, but it would solve both their problems, haha (I'm not being serious, please don't quote me explaining how dumb that would be)

I can't see the rumoured PS Trinity being a successor to the Vita. While the machine itself is a very capable handheld console Sony pulled support to soon and included a non standard SD which cost an absolute fortune to buy. I could see it being another hardware revision of the Vita one which takes standard micro SD cards. Also I think I read somewhere quite sometime ago that Sony wouldn't make a successor to the Vita as mobile gaming has made in roads to the handheld console space.

Here's the story from Pushsquare I'm talking about.
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/09/dont_hold_your_breath_...

It's not even a rumor. Some eager NeoGaf user took Sony filing for a new 5 GHz wireless chip to the FCC and then jumped to "new PS Vita on the way", and threw in Trinity to keep up with the Matrix references. There's no rumor here - just some guy who jumped leaps and bounds to reach some conclusion.

Still more reliable than a lot of NX rumors that we have seen lol

And Sony had to compete with Nintendo, who might as well have a monopoly on the handheld market.

After buying my Vita, I can give Sony a few pointers. First of all, don't overprice your damn memory cards. The Vita is several years old and the memory cards are still ridiculously priced. Second, it's sad how the Wii U has a much bigger presence in every store than the Vita does. Third, support the thing or don't make one.

@Octane Finally. Nintendo maybe should start having epic story driven games leading from one to the next to break in to the Sony / Xbox markets. It was only a suggestion lol I wasn't trying to get people to stand in corners

@GrailUK I felt Nintendo already did that in the GC era. Games like TTYD, Metroid Prime 1+2 and FE Path of Radiance.

@GrailUK So if you're asking for more variety, then I agree. Variety in general is always a good thing. Nintendo is always heavy on the platformers. That isn't a bad thing, but they should also try to diversify their library with other genres. Seeing how they can barely handle their own franchises, it's maybe a good idea to get some other developers make some of their games they won't make anyway. F-Zero for example. And give Murasame Castle to Hideki Kamiya, he wants it, we want it. It's a win-win.

@Octane F-Zero to Shin'en could work nicely, I'd have to see the DLC for FAST Racing NEO first before giving a final view.

@Grumblevolcano Definitely; at least, they've proven they can make a good racing game, so I wonder how they'd handle a bigger scope game. I like Fast Racing NEO, but it definitely needs a lot of polish and more content to able to match the average Nintendo game, but who knows?

@BiasedSonyFan I know..?

The thing is that they have several platformer franchises; Mario, 2D and 3D, Kirby, Donkey Kong, Yoshi and I'm probably forgetting another one. Whereas they really only have one racing game, as F-Zero is dead at this point. There's one fighting game, there's one shooter. They have far more platformers than other genres, so all I'm saying is that it wouldn't hurt if they had another racing game or another shooter for example.

@BiasedSonyFan I'm not talking about sales, just their games in general. They have far more platformer franchises than anything else.

For the casual gamers who want those games. As a platform for multi-platform games played on your TV the NX is going to be underwhelming however you slice it. Because there will be better options. But as a platform for first party content? If Nintendo are pooling their resources into one platform? It's going to be the platform with the most first party exclusives ever. And as a portable? It has no competition, even if Sony try to roll the dice again.

Partly because Nintendo has always split their audience. Partly because consoles like the N64, Gamecube and Wii U tried to compete with the other boxes directly. On price and in their marketing. The NX isn't going to do either of those things.

I'll put it this way. At it's peak the 3DS was selling 14mill units a year. It did that in 2011, 2012 and 2013 before dropping down to 10mill in 2014. Those are PS4 numbers. You ask why the Wii U struggled? Well something must be said for the fact that in 2013 when it had almost no content to speak of the 3DS already had or soon got Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, Zelda, Mario, Dragon Quest, Donkey Kong, Monster Hunter & Fire Emblem. At that point the Wii U only had New SMB, Wind Waker HD and Pikmin.

The more dedicated gamers out there brought a 3DS. Even people who aren't particularly big fans of Nintendo. They got it for the games above and particularly Pokemon & Zelda but also for games like Braverly Default. Because it was cheap, portable and had the library. It gave them their Nintendo fix and so there was no need to buy something else. The Wii U lost to the 3DS as much as it lost to the PS4.

See you're thinking of the NX as another Wii U or Gamecube. And you're throwing all of those problems as it and assuming that they're going to continue. Which is nonsense. Because we know for a fact that this isn't going to be that console. If anything this going to be more like a super charged 3DS.

This Twitter user is the "real source", at least so he claims. Says he is working on verification on Reddit ... maybe that's what you misunderstood. The rumors are coming out on this Twitter feed, not Reddit. Claims to be in contact with industry insiders (like the claim that Retro is working on new Kid Icarus game). Here's the original tweet I had in mind:

Anyway, I thought folks would like to hear yet another contradictory rumor. If you're not tired of rumors, you would not be on this forum, right? This one agrees with the cartridge media and September reveal rumors. But claims AMD/x86 win, NVidia shut out. Have fun.

(Update: he referenced a Neogaf/Reddit thread in one of his videos. I think this is what you are thinking about:

But that is an old rumor he used to back up his own rumors. It's part of his copious rumor stream on the Twitter feed. )

Then I would count him out. Eurogamer is much more credible than a random twitter account.

If they don't like any Nintendo games, then they would be better off with another console or a PC. You can't please everyone. But I would venture a guess and say many people are in fact interested in at least some Nintendo franchises.

I think you have your rose-tinted glasses on... Playstation 3 had a really rough start and was universally panned for being super expensive.

Console sales seems to have more with price to do than anything else... Ps2, Wii, Ps4 seems to follow that logic. They all have that in common. But I would say it isn't really the price as much as how much you get for that price, Wii U was costly when compared with the competition. The same fate almost happened to xbox, but MS did a 180. If it was only about games, PC would win by a wide margin.

And I also think 3ds has hampered Wii U. During the Wii gen, the Wii was a secondary console in many homes. In this era, I think many has bought a 3ds as a secondary console.