Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

I wouldn't count on Overwatch: http://nintendoeverything.com/overwatch-director-on-challenge...

“I think the problem is, we’ve really targeted our min spec in a way that we would have to revisit performance and how to get on that platform. And also, it’s already challenging right now maintaining three platforms and patching simultaneously, which is something that we’ve finally been able to achieve.”

“Our first couple of patches would come out on PC first and then later on the consoles. And a lot of that is because you’re working with Microsoft and Sony, and you want to be compliant to their ecosystems. Adding a third ecosystem to that just adds a lot of complexity for us, as well.”

“But I always like to tell people we’re very open-minded about what platforms we could be on. Just because we’re not on a platform right now, it doesn’t mean we won’t reconsider it in the future, so we stay aware of all these things.”

I would LOVE to have Overwatch on the Switch, as I am now getting interested in the game. I think it is time for me to try something new!

We'll get an FPS... holiday 2018 when the next Call of Duty drops. Activision will have held back nearly 2 years before releasing their cash cow, but they will eventually release it, barring Swirch suddenly stops selling (which isn't gonna happen, not at this poin

@JaxonH I don't think we will get a Call of Duty that is the same as the PS4 and Xbox One, if they do release one for the Switch it will be a spinoff game or something like they did with the Wii era.

@JaxonH Heh, considering how both Activision and Blizzard are towards Switch, I wouldn't count on it... PayDay 2 was a real surprise already, and it's been complete silence surrounding that one.

@GrailUK I guess there is that indie game coming out, Murphies Law which is an FPS if you count that game.

@UmniKnight
considering how both Activision and Blizzard are towards Switch

I'll tell you how they are toward Switch... they're reluctantly holding out to ensure it's a success. Which is understandable given Wii U.

But there comes a point where every company will hold a meeting and say ok, this sysfem is clearly popular, clearly not slowing down. What can we do to profit from it...

@JaxonH And even then, they'll look at the PS4/Xbox One, think about Switch porting, look at the cartridge situation, think about the Switch user-base and what sells and say "This isn't a thing we can do."

No company can be given any ounce of faith, unless they've explicitly stated and shown otherwise. NIS/NISA is the only one so far to have come forward, and pledge full support. AFTER JUST DISGAEA FING 5!

@UmniKnight
Nah, aside from NIS, Koei Tecmo has integrated Switch into their multiplatform engine. And we're seeing quite a few games announced from Square Enix and Capcom and Ubisoft, and now others are starting to trickle in- Bethesda (And now supposed listing of Fallout Switch) and Rockstar with LA Noire, even EA is changing their tune. Bandai Namco is happy with sales and spoke of bringing more games like Dragonball Fighter Z if DBX2 did well... even if these companies prioritize the other platforms, they'll still contract out ports to devs for hire. As long as they sell enough everyone makes more money.

Everyone knows Switch will never see full support like other consoles, but that doesn't mean they're going to avoid it entirely. If Wii/DS has taught us anything, It's that companies will bring games if the platform is selling.

@FragRed Morphies Law looks bonkers! Definitely watching that. As for third party support in general, I think it's in a safe spot now and increasing. My general vibe about the Switch is Nintendo have got their A game going on whilst coming out of the isolated bubble they created. Now, I am not really expecting current AAA titles to be released, but games like Modern Warfare remastered would be a great fit.

@JaxonH Of that list, only Ubisoft, NIS/NISA and probably Bandai have real claim to support. Capcom, and their constant testing, as well as allowing things that may as well destroy their own support, can go shove it. SE has a mixture of teams, the XV team looking down on the Switch with Tabanta being infamous for his words in that regard, while Asano is working on Octopath, but it's been very quiet surrounding that, with us hearing more about it during TGS, but then there's always that lingering question: Will it even be localized? Only NIS/NISA consistently makes good on that front.

Again, only a few of those mentioned warrant any real trust. Not to mention that historically weak third-party sales and Wii-U distrust also still linger.

@UmniKnight
"constant testing"

Idk where you're getting this from. Capcom already has four games that will be on Switch by year's end. There is no "testing". They simply said they were going to watch Street Fighter II sales to best determine what kinds of games to bring to the console. And it did well. And now they're repeatedly announcing more games. That is, by definition, support.

It's not about "trust". **** trust. This isn't a gosh dang dating relationship. I don't need "trust". All I need is observational skills to observe the fact Capcom is bringing games. Square Enix is bringing games. Ubisoft is bringing games. Koei Tecmo is bringing games. Bandai Namco is bringing games. Even EA and Bethesda and TakeTwo and Rockstar... are bringing games.

That's called support. I don't know which games will or will not come in the future but I do know they will bring games. They are already bringing games. I don't care how much you hate Capcom you cannot refute the fact they will have four games on the system by the end of the year.

I don't think CoD is a given on Switch, most of the 3rd party support is targeted support. Here's some examples:

Ubisoft
Mario + Rabbids - It has Mario in it
Starlink - Nintendo fans like physical collectables, otherwise amiibo would've been a failure
Steep - Nintendo fans want another 1080 Snowboarding
Rayman Legends - Was originally going to be a Wii U exclusive

Bethesda
Skyrim - Nintendo fans being really excited for BotW

Capcom
SFII Final Challengers - Ryu is in Smash, original was a SNES game
Resident Evil Revelations 1+2 - The first game was originally a 3DS exclusive, older RE games were a big deal on GC/Wii

We're seeing more and more of Nintendo does something and then the 3rd parties follow if the fanbase reacts well to the Nintendo game. If BotW was a normal Zelda game rather than open world, I really doubt Bethesda would be supporting Switch for example.

@Grumblevolcano I think with Bethesda there was more Nintendo paying in exchange to get Skyrim on the Switch, to help bolster the launch year lineup, especially if they weren't too sure how much support they would receive so quickly. Same deal with PayDay 2, Nintendo put forward cash to get the game to the Switch, fills that FPS gap for their launch year lineup.

What did happen to Pay Day 2 for the Switch? We got one trailer and it just went dark.

@FragRed Resulting in Nintendo publishing Skyrim on Bethesda's behalf.

@JaxonH Street Fighter was a test, they said XX was a test: http://nintendoeverything.com/capcom-monster-hunter-xx-switch... You've got your head up your own back-end in regards to Capcom, and refuse to hear a different word. Will you equally refute that promoting World A DAY before XX's launch, as stated by Media Create, has damaged XX? http://www.dualshockers.com/monster-hunter-world-ps4-xx-switc...

You may think Capcom on a high pedestal, but such thinking brings you nowhere.

@antster1983 If the rumours do turn out to be true about Fallout 4 coming to Switch (personally I'm still skeptical), is say it's likely a similar arrangement with Nintendo again bring publisher. That maybe the best way to go with certain games going forward.

@UmniKnight
Take that statement and redirect it at yourself, because you're so uninformed and basing your beliefs off sensationalist headlines you haven't got a clue what's really going on.

READ THE ACTUAL STATEMENT

Beginning with Monster Hunter XX (Double Cross) Nintendo Switch Ver. for Japan, we are evaluating how we will support this platform in the future

Note They didn't say if, they said how. Because the "if" has already been decided. They are supporting Switch. That's over and done with. Discussion over. They said they want to determine how to best support it. Meaning, decisions based on hard data. Do we like Game A and Game B? Or would we prefer Game C and Game D? That's determining how to support
It.

That's not a "test". That is saying "we are already supporting the system, beginning with MHXX our official support has begun. And now that we are supporting it, we will observe how certain games perform so we can better determine which games the audience prefers.

And that's common business 101 sense. You don't go blindly dumping your entire back catalogue on any old platform, you tailor which games you bring based on the audience's preference. ALL COMPANIES DO THIS, even if Capcom is the only one honest enough to admit it.

In case you hadn't noticed they've now got 4 games coming to the system! That sure is alot of games for a "test". News flash: they're supporting the system. Tests are over. And the first one was necessary because if Street Fighter sold like crap, and the audience spoke loud and clear that they don't want third party games, then there would be no point in them supporting the system. ALL COMPANIES MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON SALES. They need to properly gage the market demand before they start dumping millions of dollars on a losing investment, or maybe not a losing investment but one which offers less returns than the alternatives.

The past week has made me realise that as time goes on people will look down on the Switch.

Constant fighting over what it is, what it isnt, what it should have been, what it lacks, the constant reminder that its still early and still has no games (This wont go away we just need to admit it).

I figured things would begin to look up but now even Nintendo fans are fighting amongst themselves.