@Operative2-0 Yeah, I've thought of that angle but I'm still not sure. It might need heavy retooling for that. "Shaking" items works with a stylus, but doesn't work well with a capacitive screen that can be "grippy" for example. Accuracy of placing items and your own fingers getting in the way more than a stylus can be an issue too. Then there's the concerns, once piling it on too much, that it really IS most of the WiiU library being ported. Optically they might have to curtail that by at least delaying some more ports. Also, fitting the whole UI on the screen and getting a thick finger to tap it properly might be a trick. Nintendo tends not to release things that are "possible" but aren't smooth user experiences. No doubt they've played with it in R&D....but I can't imagine it raising some problems to deal with.
I do think it can happen, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen, but I'm not convinced it's a slam dunk either.
@NEStalgia I mean, agree to disagree, but especially on the point that they don't release things that aren't smooth for most people. With starfox zero and skyward sword. They release what they think is innovative and fun, and I definitely think they see Mario maker on the go as fun. I also think you're over thinking how difficult it would be with a capacitive touchscreen. Minor difference, sure, but people wouldn't be bothered.
@Ralizah Agreed on Smash. I think a new Smash at this point would likely feature a lot of cuts, which I'm not sure would go over well with the fanbase. Smash fans are arguably a lot more invested in the characters compared to other fighters because it's seen as a showcase and celebration of Nintendo's history.
@Operative2-0 If you stick your finger on the switch screen, try the "shake" gesture like you're playing SMM on it. That's your answer why it needs to be retooled That's not going to work without a new mechanism. It certainly CAN be done, of course. But I do think it needs some adjustments to be a smooth experience on the platform. I think they'd judge based on how well it's done on 3DS.
@Ralizah Agreed on Smash and kart. They're kind of perfect as they are.
@NEStalgia I hope they don't judge it based on 3DS sales considering that version is pretty lackluster compared to the Wii U version. If anything I always thought the 3DS version was a stopgap so they could point to the Switch version and call it the definitive portable experience if it had all the features the Wii U version has.
That said, with all these ports and games coming this year, I expect it'll be a 2018 game anyway.
@Operative2-0 If you stick your finger on the switch screen, try the "shake" gesture like you're playing SMM on it. That's your answer why it needs to be retooled That's not going to work without a new mechanism. It certainly CAN be done, of course. But I do think it needs some adjustments to be a smooth experience on the platform.
I'm having no trouble shaking my finger around the touch screen. Is it my piano fingers?
@Operative2-0 I could see it as a 2018 stopgap. I thought of the 3DS version, like Wooly World, as a way to eek out some more money out of what was a failure but shouldn't have been. A way to salvage the finances of the project in a respectable way, more than just an NX holdover. IF they were going to hold it over for NX I would think like Kart and Pokken they'd have just held it back for NX. Doesn't mean they won't bring it to Switch, but I'm not sure it was the plan from the start. 3DS gave a respectable window to any game....though that was more gimped than most. The fact they went through the convolutions to stick it weirdly on 3DS when it wasn't a good fit is part of what makes me doubt it going to Switch.
@Nicolaison Hmm, both the wrist action required and the "grabbiness" of the screen to me are a disaster for it. Granted they could just a "press and hold" or "double tap" instead of shake. I also thing encouraging people to rub the screen would bode ill for the long term durability of the glare coating.
Shoot, there just went the FE18 petting game, didn't it?
@Octane If I owned a Switch too and I wanted FIFA 18, I would certainly get the PS4 version. I also don't really care about portability... I still think the Switch is getting a gimped version, and portability isn't going to make up for that
Then you've weighed what matters most to you and made a decision accordingly. If that one mode trumps portability, for you, then obviously you should buy the other version. But I think for a lot of people that's not going to be the case. And I think people who weren't really interested in the game will be quick to say that, because it's easy to say you won't buy a version game that you're not interested in anyways.
I also don't think that not buying the game is sending the wrong message. If they decide their entire future support on a gimped released of a single game, the joke's on them. On the other hand, buying it just to show you want EA support could also mean sending the message that you're OK with gimped versions on the Switch
The joke is always on us. But no one is advocating buying a game just to show we want EA support. Not at all. I advocate buying it if you're actually interested in the game and want to play it. If that sends a message that you're ok with gimped versions, then so be it. Cause maybe we are. I know I am. I don't like it, but I'm not going to blacklist a game that's worth buying simply because it's been labeled as "gimped". If the game is worth buying then it's worth buying, "gimped" or not, cause the total value can still exceed that of other versions (i.e. best handheld version ever released i.e. 2 versions in 1). If it's not worth buying then it's not worth buying, "gimped" or not. But for the record the game isn't gimped, it's just not ported from the better version. So it is definitely the inferior version content wise, but not because they cut content out... but rather because they ported from a version that didn't have extra content added in.
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@NEStalgia Hmm, maybe it's also my PDP screen protector. I'm also shaking my whole hand with my elbow, so there isn't much wrist action going on. It certainly isn't quite as easy as using a stylus, but easy enough to where I wouldn't have even given it a thought unless it was brought up.
If they announce a proper new Animal Crossing for Switch and show some gameplay, I will be satisfied.
Even though I have no first party games to buy the upcoming months, since I have no interest in ARMS, Splatoon 2 or Pokken, since I don't like fighting games or playing shooters with a controller.
Looks like 2K is sending out mystery boxes to Youtubers to promote 2K18, and sent some to Nintendo to send out! Nice to see that they're taking the Switch version seriously.
@NEStalgia I wish it weren't the case but I think you might be right on Super Mario Maker. It's not a perfect fit and that might be enough to scupper it from Nintendos perspective.
Plus with Mario Odyssey out this year (& likely the rabbids collaboration) they'll want to leave a little space to avoid 'Mario fatigue'.
Maybe they'll see if they can make SMM work in 2019 when the user base is much bigger and there's not just been a main line Mario game?
@MarcelRguez I always thought preparing assets was the whole reason for Amiibo Festival. Animal Crossing will obviously arrive- it's just a question of when. My money is on next summer - they need it out early in the lifespan of the console.
Like Mario Kart they have a game which is functionally very strong to work from. They don't HAVE to reinvent the wheel here.
On the issue of ports that often comes up - I personally suspect we'll get them throughout the lifetime of the Switch.
One of the great successes of Switch so far is that the release schedule has shown from day one a 1st party release every 1-2 months. There isn't a major drought by design/oversight.
That's only been possible because Nintendo has released a Mario Kart port and been clever with a Splatoon sequel that can repurpose the original games mechanics and assets.
A port of something (anything really) in February/March next year would be great in that it's easy and it'd give the perception of a regular release schedule in the 'graveyard shift'. Which is much better than sending a new game out then to die or leaving a 4 month+ gap.
That gap killed what little momentum the Wii U had from launch dead and Nintendo should want to avoid anything similar for Switch at any cost.
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