Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Tsurii Call of Duty or GTA fans don't have this problem discussing what type of game the next in the franchise should be lol!

Me too. To me, the Prime series aren't true Metroid games. They're enjoyable but they're not the full Metroid experience. Metroid: Other M wasn't perfect but it laid out a good template for a sequel. I wouldn't mind another 2D game either.

I don't mind seeing Nintendo do something new with the franchise so long as Samus Aran is the main character and the focus of the game is on exploration. The atmospheric dread and heavy emphasis on exploration are big parts of what made Super Metroid and Metroid Prime timeless masterpieces, imo.

@MarcelRguez I don't think the hate for Fed. Force would have been nearly as potent if Nintendo hadn't already starved Metroid fans for years. There's a reason Bethesda announced Fallout Shelter alongside Fallout 4.

Not that it would have been received well, but it probably would have just fizzled out like Codename: S.T.E.A.M. instead of being violently rejected by the community at large.

Didn't Prime receive almost as much hate (less because it still had Samus, and it was a simpler, less Internet heavy time) when it was announced after a similar drought, despite Fusion, a "core" 2D game releasing shortly afterwards?

The fanbase just stinks. Especially now that all they do is "compare" FF and Other M to past games and say how much they suck. If you love the older games so much, why not just play them and leave the ones you don't like behind you?

Something I noticed about the Prime games lately is how they implicitly give Samus an identity for each one and tailor the experience to match them.

• Prime 1: You are the hunter. The game is pretty easy as whole, with creatures not putting up much resistance most of the time and only a few trouble spots, making you feel strong and capable of taking on anything.
• Prime 2: You are the hunted (for a while at least. Even says so on the box). There are many more things explicitly out to kill you (and no easy means of escape unlike the first game, due to your damaged ship), especially on Dark Aether where you initially have to jump from hiding spot to hiding spot just to survive. Easily the hardest in the series, and difficulty spikes where it actually makes sense (most people take U-mos's warnings for granted. They won't once they reach the Bog, Grenchlers and the Boost Guardian).
• Prime 3: You are a soldier/mercenary. As the most story driven game in the series, you spend a lot of time taking and following orders. There are also many more high-action sequences since all-out war has essentially kicked off.

@meleebrawler Well maybe it was due to the whole console/handheld situation. The west have mostly been of the view "home consoles are much better than handhelds" so with a new concept Metroid being released for the big new home console meanwhile the classic formula you know and love only getting released on a handheld is bound to cause issues. Similar logic can be applied to the whole Animal Crossing amiibo Festival situation as Animal Crossing's last proper home console entry was in 2008 with City Folk.

Of course these kind of issues wouldn't be a problem from around 2018 onwards as the Switch is both a home console and a handheld. I say 2018 because this year seems to still be a strong 3DS year so 3DS can still steal big games from Switch.

@MarcelRguez ... sorry. Maybe I just don't understand fanbases as a whole. Life's too short to be caught up on all these things and all that.

Nintendo knows what the fans want. But they ALSO know those fans almost literally don't put their money where their mouth is (yes, I know this is a quantity issue and not lies). From a business standpoint, Federation Force out of the blue does make sense, even if it is a bit desperate in trying to draw new fans.

Voice and sales are equally important facets of demand. Sticker Star showed that having more sales doesn't equate to better reception, which led to Color Splash trying to refine it and keep those new fans. So I'm not saying that voicing your dissatisfaction is bad in of itself, but you have to understand when to stop and realize the message is received. And I can't think of any clearer message than bad reception AND sales.

At the end of the day, Metroid is Nintendo's franchise and they can do what they want with it. The sooner we come to terms with this, the better. Because chances are, if we get a Metroid announcement this year, it will NOT be what the fans were expecting, at least not entirely. History has proven that sticking to those expectations just doesn't sell.

Ugh....the Human Resource Machine puzzles are....just....I can't figure it out. T.T
(stuck on the "Countdown"/"Exclusive Lounge" puzzles...)

Everyone claims a certain Fandom is the worst. I think Fandom in general can just be pretty terrible over many instances. Metroids is certainly no worse than any others I've seen in my experience.

BTW here's my full VC wishlist for the Switch (and I do think we'll see a lot of these if not all of them):

Super Mario 64
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Paper Mario
Luigi's Mansion
Super Mario Sunshine
Mario Kart: Double Dash
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid Zero Mission
Wario World
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (if the 3DS remake is fake)
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Metroid Prime 3
Super Mario Galaxy

@MarcelRguez " Same here. Remember the BioWare fanbase after Mass Effect 3's ending?"

Yeah, I still wake up screaming at night when I dream about those dark times.

I think that I still have 1 or 2 years before upgrading to the Switch, specially with Monster Hunter Stories arriving this year. However, if a Metroid or a new Pokemon (a new generation) is revealed... I guess I'll have to sell my body to the night.

I've seen people having many problems with the screen scratching and the Joy-con controllers... Do you guys think we'll see a new Switch model in the next couple years that adresses them?

@Bolt_Strike Here's my VC Wishlist:

Super Mario 64

Easily pleased, I know. I have all of the VC games I want on my Wii U and 3DS, but Super Mario 64 is the one game I cannot ever stop playing. It's probably the single game I would take on a deserted island. Being able to get my quick (non-DS) SM64 fix wherever I am would make me happier than anything.

Speaking of a game that could use an HD update and I'm not talking retail. How about an HD update straight to eshop for Mario 64. Why does only Zelda get the HD treatment?

@Nicolaison
I never understood the love of SM64. Sure it was a huge deal at the time but going back to it now? Ugh. That camera is just unbearable. I guess if you have the nostalgia goggles and don't have an issue with motion sickness it's fine. And it is better than a lot of 3D games of that era. But still. Ugh.

Actually, ugh to the N64 in general with very few exceptions. Exceptions that are still hit with an ugly stick but exceptions just the same.

I will second this. Also if you're going to buy an expensive device a screen protector is a must no matter what you own. Anything can get scratches even glass. Oh and ill live with scratches over shattering glass any day of the week!

@MarcelRguez @Spoony_Tech Oh no, I meant something about scratching the screen with the dock, not on use. Anyway based on the positive feedback from you and others I guess these things are really taken out of proportion, so that's a relief. If this E3 surprises me, I'll be probably getting it then.

@roy130390 I would definitely recommend a screen protector. A plastic one would probably work fine, but I prefer tempered glass ones for the peace of mind that the dock has basically no chance of scratching the screen (I'm still careful when putting it in, of course), and because it is way less prone to bubbling than plastic ones. Cleaning the screen before you actually put the protector on is still a good idea though, to prevent any dust/debris from getting stuck under the protector permanently.

Plus, you can get a pack of two for like 10-15 dollars. Definitely a good investment IMO. The Orzly ones are absolutely worth buying in my experience. No issues with it whatsoever. You should be able to find some on Amazon if you're interested.

Also, the JoyCon issue will become much less prevalent as time goes on. It's probably still possible to find a system with the issue, but it was just a simple manufacturing issue that has been corrected, so it was really only some of the systems manufactured at launch that had the issue. Besides, you can send it to Nintendo and they'll fix it for you if you did get one with problems.

@KirbyTheVampire I just got a glass one about a week ago and so glad I did. Screen looks excellent and only paid 10$ on Amazon and got 2 of them. Sold the other to my brother for 5$. The other screen protector I had wasn't bad but I knew with glass I was getting the best visuals possible. The only thing I didn't like at first is with glass it added a bit more thickness to the system and it fit in the dock just a bit to snug for my liking. Once I saw that it wasn't hurting the screen in anyway I was more relieved.

@Spoony_Tech What brand did you get? Mine fits in the same as it did before I put it on, but some people with certain brands have said theirs is a bit too tight.

@KirbyTheVampire Thanks for the recommendation, I'll definitely buy those when I get the Switch.

Its nice to know that about the Joy-Cons. I'm definitely trying to avoid that situation or any other problem since I'm in Mexico and the price is really high.

@DarthNocturnal Nice! I had to see the video... that's incredible! Some said that the way it fell helped it and stuff but either way I've seen phones crash in pieces when they fall from people's hands. Definitely a return to Nintendium days

You should be getting some profit from Nintendo for being so good at selling them guys.