Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

...or hopefully the launch line-up will convince them that this was a transition period, and they were instead getting serious about the NX?

Ok and there is overlap, but there are people who own a Sony or Microsoft console, that don't want to play "teen or mature AAA" titles, and there are people that don't own those systems and do want to play "teen or mature AAA" titles. I fall under the second group.

EDIT: I have just been thinking and I am wondering, what does Nintendo have to lose if they make a system that is more friendly for 3rd Party developers? They can still have unique features with their hardware, but what do they have to lose by trying to get 3rd Party software on their system?

citation needed.

The average console gamer is 35 years old. And many of them will have kids, so having a console with loads of family games and mature isn't bad.

But what is the option? They can have an innovation, but I don't think it will be expensive to implement. Wii U was seen as underpowered and overpriced. I don't think they will sacrifice power for that this time around. What gimmick could they have that feels fresh and isn't expensive?

@Therad The gamecube had a handle...the NX will have a cup holder.

@GrailUK I thought it was going to be part microwave and part game console... I will be disappointed if it is just a cup holder

@DefHalan Think about it...it makes 'perfect sense'. (Started to really hate that expression btw!)

@GrailUK Will the Cup holder be on the system or the controller? I want it on my controller and I want the controller to have gyro support

I'll tell ya what I think. I think Nintendo should focus on their own output. It rules. Ok, ok calm down, they didn't deliver on the Wii U as well as we all know they can do from previous gens. However, I would be perfectly happy if Nintendo would expand their own development to encompass not only 'amusement' games (and I hope that is an accurate way of differentiating Nintendo game design from the following...) but also 'more mainstream entertainment' games. I am the first to say I am not articulate enough to describe the fundamental difference between Mario Kart and Last of Us (outside of the obvious genre labels ofc) but Nintendo have shown that they can cook up some really nice mature content with Eternal Darkness. They can appeal to this third party market place themselves and I dare say make more thought provoking content. But they need to invest and expand in to this territory. If I was Nintendo CEO, I would be very proud of Nintendo's history and think they should be trying gain first place in peoples eyes on their own terms. Seems to me the industry is letting the tail wag the dog by putting so much emphasis on third parties, especially as their productivity is simply milking consumers for the most part.

I agree, I just don't see a reason to alienate 3rd parties with their hardware either. Nintendo can continue to innovate and push themselves more while having a system that 3rd Parties want to develop for too. I don't think they need to go after 3rd parties as much as Sony and Microsoft, it seems those two put way more emphasis on 3rd parties than is needed.

@DefHalan Hahahah brilliant!

@DefHalan Ye they shouldn't alienate themselves, but when you read articles about EA asking how Nintendo will advertise themselves and include their games in bundles, if I was Mr Kimishima erm...lets just say I would probably get a 24 hour Nintendolife forum ban for my response! I think their consoles will sell just fine if they can consistently produce a diverse range of games. They have enough remaster contenders and IP they could release more regularly to forge a more modern commercial approach. There are not many PS2 owners who played Medal of Honor and Katamari Damacy. There were loads of N64 owners who played Mario 64 and Goldeneye. Seems to me they could make a killing if they stop selling their AAA western companies!

@GrailUK totally agree. They still could do some bundles with 3rd parties, they did a ZombiU one for Ubisoft, but I don't think they have to rely on them as much as the other two.

@Project_Dolphin I feel like what you are saying is, if Nintendo is able to release a console that offers both 3rd Party "Teen and Mature AAA" games and Family Friendly games, not only will they be able to target the audience currently gaming on console, but be able to expand to a new audience that has mostly been focused on mobile games... That sounds like a pretty good deal.

still waiting for that citation about 'people who want mature/teen AAA and family friendly titles don't exist or are very rare'. Consoles that cater to multiple demographics have been released and still are being released - nowadays the PS4 is the biggest one - in ages past they were called the NES, SNES, PlayStation, Wii, ,PS2, PS3 and Gamecube. Probably the Xbox line has had family friendly titles, but I haven't taken much notice to be honest...

@Project_Dolphin But then you look at what is at the top of mobile charts and they are normally "family friendly" titles. Along with that you get more and more articles talking about how the number of console players that also play mobile is growing. There is a demand for Family Friendly experiences that aren't being met on console.

Minecraft? The new Ratchet and Clank?

None of that is relevant to the claim that 'people wanting to buy teen/mature AAA games plus family friendly games don't exist or are extremely rare'. You might see a 'simple logic' but I doubt you could show it in formal logic terms. It's all a non-sequiteur as far as I can see. provide some hard data and then I'll believe you...

@Project_Dolphin well seeing how mobile users are wanting the Family Friendly games, and being under served on consoles, why would they move to consoles?

Tbh I am still questioning the Tegra rumor. Especially nvidia selling at a loss. Nvidia likes fat margins. What do they gain from taking a loss on a chip for, let's face it, a dying portable market?