Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

It shouldn't be too bad. Andre said in the Q&A something along the lines of the drops being there but they never really took him out of the experience.

It's funny that we were first speculating if the dock somehow gave the system more power. And some were even concerned that games wouldn't run as good on the go as on the tv.

Well then, it seems the Switch really is a portable first and foremost.

If future titles suffer similar issues, Nintendo should probably reconsider marketing it as a home console, lest they face questions why their "home console" functions better as a portable.

But, I really think it's just a case of un-optimization as well as just developer inexperience making such a big game. I assume if they made a direct sequel with a similar world, the game would be much smoother.

I imagine DF will probably explain a bit more. I find it a bit hard to believe that Ninty would leave Zelda un-optimized. That's just me though, and I don't really know anything about tech.

@KirbyTheVampire I would have drawn the same conclusion based on that video, it looks like it's gone full-on Wind Waker in terms of the saturation and such. In terms of any 'downgrades', it's obviously 720p, but, well... I really couldn't imagine it looking perceivably much better at any higher resolution.

The number '720' is pretty much infamous for 'not being 1080', and on massive screens there's a reason for that, but the Switch is just so many times smaller that demanding the same absolute number of pixels of it would simply burn through the battery for no appreciable reason. Yes, you're sitting closer to it, but not that much closer. For what it's worth, it also apparently has a higher pixel density than the 13 inch retina MacBook Pro, so hey.

Apparently some people find certain icons a bit small on the Switch screen in Zelda, but I think that's the worst of the real-world downgrades of using it in portable that I know about.

I find it a little strange that the Handheld form is stronger graphically than the Docked mode.

Maybe rendering on a larger screen in higher res. has something to do with it. That, or the magic elves in the thing were lazy when GameXplain was playing.

That's very adorable

What'll be fun are the graphical comparisons with the Wii U

@Octane
Sorry man, still going with hysteria. Hysteria is "uncontrollable emotion, especially among a group of people." Being bummed is definitely an emotion, and you and many others are expressing said emotion without even seeing the final product (which always irks me). And that's just on Nintendolife. If you dare (which I no longer do), take a venture into the comments section of any article about the fps on a larger site. Gird yourself, though, your mind might not make it out unscathed lol. Anyway, point being, you'll see the hysteria, just on a larger scale.

I think you guys are really overreacting. It's obviously a case of this game being originally a Wii U title, and then being shifted. And yea, they had some time, but its a massive game. Possibly the biggest game Nintendo has ever made. The optimization for the new hardware was never going to be perfect or probably even "good," to be honest. If BotW were built from the ground up as a Switch title, I think things would be pretty different. All that being said, it still isn't being reported as a major issue whatsoever.

I really fail to see how being disappointed with the choppy framerate in some areas is seen as overreacting. You have a low threshold if that's what you consider hysteria, dude.

And that is the final product. That's what we're basing these feelings on.

I apologize on behalf of all of us that we would have the audacity to not respond in a positive way to the news that BoTW is slightly choppy sometimes. We're all terrible people, and we should be burned at the stake for our sins against our king rallydefault, and above all, our supreme overlords at Nintendo. How dare we not roll over onto our backs and gleefully lap up the bad news that no one even thinks is a big deal and treat it as a gift from the Nintendo gods? How DARE we respond even SLIGHTLY negatively?! We're all HERETICS, I tell you!!!

In all seriousness, no one really cares, and I'm sure Nintendo has some excuse for it. They wouldn't intentionally make the game have patches of slightly poor FPS, after all. We would just be happier if the game ran on the TV as smoothly as it does in handheld mode, and we expressed that with "Oh, that sucks." Hardly hysteria, and absolutely nothing we should be called out for.

I'm no fan of choppiness myself.It annoyed me in Wind Waker HD especially as it went against how perfect the game was elsewhere and the fact it was a remake of an old game,there really shouldn't have been any.I wonder if this is something Nintendo can and will address with a patch? If it's happening so early in the game,I doubt it will be the only instance.

It's kinda odd seeing some of these indie games being confirmed for launch. As it stands I'm getting the Switch for Zelda which is a game I obviously don't have yet. I could've got it on the Wii U but I'm not, I don't see this as an issue at all. And Snipperclips is the other one I'm interested in at launch. Brand new, not on Wii U. But some of the other stuff?

There's Fast RMX which when push comes to shove is basically just a better performing version of Fast Racing Neo. A game which I got on the Wii U and also got the DLC. Nintendo knows I've already brought that content, is that new release going to be full retail for me? Probably. Same deal with Shovel Knight which I brought on the Wii U before realising I'd rather play it on the 3DS so I got it again. New content is coming out and if I want to play it on the Switch? I assume I'd have to pay full retail yet again.

As it is I'm not buying those games again. They're not particularly low priced indie games and I have already paid a fair amount to get them. If My Nintendo recognised those purchases and gave me a "Just For You" offer of like 50-80% off? Then sure. If they did the decent thing and let me download them for nothing? Then absolutely. But as it is? It's a bit rough having some great indie launch games that I've not only played already but that I own already and would likely have to pay full retail to play on this new hardware.

Yes this is how it has always been. The difference is this time they don't have an excuse for it.

I think I went with "slightly concerning" when desicribing the Gamexplain vid, because it looked immersion-breakingly choppy for moments of that short clip, and we don't know for sure how common it'll be in the wider game. If it's super frequent (though that seems very unlikely, it'd be enough to force me onto the handheld at nearly all times. However, given that, 1) I didn't notice it at all on my own playthrough, 2) I've not seen anyone complain about it in previews and, 3) I can't remember why I went for a numbering system when I only had two points... umm... I don't suspect it'll be a game tarnishingly common occcurance.

I wouldn't use the world "hysteria" to describe this thread's reaction though. That's such a useful world on the internet, that I don't like wasting it on things like "disappointment". In fact, if someone says, "I'm disappointed", I want to give them a special Grown-Ups badge for maturely dealing with a negative emotion, and not launching into an emotionally-unstable, passive-aggressive, all-caps tirade beginning with, "DEAR NINTENDO". Those two words genuinely fill my heart with dread.

If we didn't want groups of people expressing opinions (and their resulting emotions) together, we wouldn't be using a forum. If five people write, "I'm so happy Snipperclips is coming Day 1! And the Joy Con bundle looks fantastic!" - is that hysteria? If so, hysteria seems to commonplace as to not be worth mentioning. Stuff happens, people have feelings about it, often those feelings overlap. Unless they're extreme or absurd feelings, it's usually just pleasantly unremarkable.

Anyway, Amelia is fab. She reminds me a bit of the Mario Maker Helpers, but less weirdly creepy (and probably better at designing stages, if she had to).

I watched that Zelda comparison vid. I'm not even sure exactly what the problem was. Link's legs might have been running a bit less smoothly, but that was really all I could detect. It's examples like that that lose me on the whole FPS issue. I guess it is 'disappointing', but we're talking the very minor end of disappointing here. I'm gonna be playing it mostly, if not entirely, hand-held anyway, so no hysteria from me.

Hollow Knight released on Steam yesterday, for £10.99 I think. Hopefully the Switch edition isn't far off and is the same price. Love that art style.

I have made my mind up,I'm keeping my UK pre-order for the Neon console and having it sent over.I got an update the other day that it will now arrive on the 3rd instead of the 7th it previously stated.

I plan to buy most of my games digitally,at least the ones I know I will play the most.For my Wii U,I bought nearly all my retail games digitally but I bought the codes from websites like Gamesrocket and CDKeys.It saved me a fair bit,most of the time games were 25 to 30% cheaper than on the Eshop.After Brexit though the prices have gone right up and the savings are not great.

Now in the UK Switch games on the Eshop are going to be even more expensive than on Wii U,Zelda at least is £59.99.I cant justify that when physically it can be had for £42.99.The best Gamesrocket or CDKeys will likely offer for Zelda with current exchange rates is around £53+ and a card fee on top.So it's left me wondering what to do.But then the other day I noticed you can buy the download code for Zelda on Amazon US for $59.99.That converts to £48.15 currently. so not too bad at all.There will be a £1.50 or so foreign transaction fee on top from Visa aswell,not sure about Mastercard but it still works out £10 cheaper than buying from our own Eshop.If exchange rates improve it will get even cheaper.So if Amazon US continue to sell download codes for all the retail titles this will be the cheapest way to go for us digital guys and girls.

The big question is,will this way actually work?If I have my region set to UK will I be able to use a NA download code?I know it's region free but will that also apply to Eshop purchases?If it is indeed possible then why would anyone who knows about it buy their retail games direct from the UK Eshop?This is what makes me think it might not be.

I really hope it is as I have around $500 of Amazon gift cards I can use.I've had them for ages.I could never justify using them on anything as once shipping and custom fees are factored in,everything becomes expensive.If I can use them all up on digital codes sent to my email though then superb.Thats 8+ full retail games I wont need to put out any cash for.

What do you think?

For anybody who's worried about FPS drops in Zelda for Switch, I can tell you this: I own an XBoxOne and PS4, and every open world game I've played on either console all have occasional FPS drops, even their first party games. In fact I've never seen an open world game on any platform that doesn't occasionally drop in performance. Zelda for Switch will be fine.

@skywake Yeah, the worst part is that we haven't even seen the Wii U version since the E3 build.. Not even one video. But Nintendo said that the sound quality and resolution were the only differences, so I'm going to hold them accountable for that. I presume that the Wii U versions runs like Switch version, considering the resolution is the same in Switch handheld mode, I think that's also plausible. We'll see I guess..

Oh please. If that's hysteria – like Maxz said – then every slightly positive comment is hysteria as well. If that's your definition, this entire forum is filled with hysteria. Then your post is also hysteria, because it ''irks'' you that some people judge a game on previews or reviews (kinda their purpose) based on the final build of the game.

@SuperWeird I'm sorry, but you're going to have to delete or edit that last comment.

What you've written is far too sensible

Just to give people an idea of numbers for stores in the U.K. I've just been into my local Game U.K. Store to prepay and I got a look at their stock list. They had been allocated 28 grey and 14 neon Switch consoles. This store is one of 4 branches within the city centre.