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Nicolai

@Haru17: Careful, that could be easily paraphrased as "I don't understand the opposing side's argument, so I'm just going to assume it's sexism." You may not have meant that, but the way you said it, it sounded a little short-sided, tbh.

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I would love to see Prince Zeldan and Ganondina if the user picks a female Link.

Or how about... Grannondorf!
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Haru17

Nicolai wrote:

Careful, that could be easily paraphrased as "I don't understand the opposing side's argument, so I'm just going to assume it's sexism." You may not have meant that, but the way you said it, it sounded a little short-sided, tbh.

I see nothing wrong with denouncing silly arguments. People as a whole need to stop being stupid about physical diversity, making such a huge deal out of utterly minuscule differences. If one understands biology at all one recognizes that the difference is literally just shapes, shapes at the micro and macro level.

Or how about... Grannondorf!

Okay, okay, okay, that's really funny. 10/10, would pun again.

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Nicolai

Haru17 wrote:

Nicolai wrote:

Careful, that could be easily paraphrased as "I don't understand the opposing side's argument, so I'm just going to assume it's sexism." You may not have meant that, but the way you said it, it sounded a little short-sided, tbh.

I see nothing wrong with renouncing silly arguments. People as a whole need to stop being stupid about physical diversity, making such a huge deal out of utterly minuscule differences. If one understands biology at all one recognizes that the difference is literally just shapes, shapes at the micro and macro level.

I can agree with that. That's one of the reasons I stayed out of the argument for this long. I just really wanted to post the Grannondorf thing

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Octane

@Kinan: I don't think anyone here has a problem with playing as a female character in a game...

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Octane

Kinan wrote:

Octane: And I never said that, did I? : ) No, I gave an example of a larger problem that does not just pertain to playing Linkle instead of Link, but rather the larger discussion that's going on in the industry right now. With people annoyed or worried that a character like Linkle could be shoehorned into Zelda games only for the sake of appeasing the angry mob that claims Link always being the one to save Zelda is stereotyping.

Mind you, that's just my observations of some people's opinion of Linkle. I've said nothing about people not wanting to play Zelda or any other female character either. I'm part of a quite a decent group that's in favour of being able to play as Zelda for example and would love being able to play a game with her as the player character (heck, I highly prefer FemShep). But ever since I've decided to join in the apparent dustcloud kicked up from all the vehement disagreement going on in this topic, nobody has given me a single break when I'm trying to address anything or anyone when I'm either trying to inform or debate with someone because I perceive their statements to be incorrect.

Not sure whether you were referring to this thread or the industry in general.

Regarding this discussion, I think it's pretty clear that nobody here is sexist or has anything against playable female characters in video games. It all comes down to personal opinion on how we like to see video games designed.

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rallydefault

@Kinan: ... just move on, man. You've made enough assumptions about me, all baseless and indicative of your own insecurities and inability to defend your point. You were the first to start with the "platitudes," the "have a nice day " You are the one making blanket statements about "artists." Of course not every person on a development team is involved in the creative process, but there a few at the "top" who ARE, and my comments have and always were about those people. I even used specific names at certain points. You just don't want to see any of that. Every insult you throw at me is something you yourself are guilty of.

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CaviarMeths

Right, so gender options for Link - still a heated topic.

What's next on the pre-release Zelda argument agenda?

So Anakin kneels before Monster Mash and pledges his loyalty to the graveyard smash.

Eel

SpookyMeths wrote:

Right, so gender options for Link - still a heated topic.

What's next on the pre-release Zelda argument agenda?

It's something about the over-sexualization of fish people and its effects on Hylian society. Or was that next week's theme?

Or we could go back to talk about grass, that's always nice!

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Nicolai

@SpookyMeths: Well, we've got the "Ganondorf should be villain again" argument, motion controls vs traditional controls, where the game is on the timeline (which naturally progresses into why the timeline does or doesn't suck), whether it should be non-linear, whether it should be more story driven, general gimmick hate...

I mean, take your pick. They're all things we've discussed at least 3 times in the past, but I'm sure no one cares how many times we've had the moderators put up barricades the on this thread.

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Man, I miss all the cool stuff. :/

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Ooh, ooh, I've got it! Let's talk about all of the different types of apples we'd be able to pick and eat!

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I like Red Apples. They could be a form of hearts, and regen health.

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Morpheel wrote:

They already are in a few games.

Are they?

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Nicolai

@Aromaiden: Yuck! Not red delicious! My favorites are Gala and Granny Smith.

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rishisquid

@Aromaiden: Yep. It's funny, because I only know about them because of a previous discussion about apples on this thread They're apparently in ALttP and ALBW, but I've never seen them.

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Nicolai

@Morpheel should get paid overtime for this. The thread has moved on to apples!

Apparently, in A Link Between Worlds, there are both red and green apples. While red apples restore 1 heart, green apples restore 3! Thus proving my point that green apples are superior

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