There clearly are intended ways to do things. Zora's Domain was designed so you approach it from the front. They deliberately have it raining around the cliffs surrounding that valley so its almost impossible to approach it another way.
@Dezzy The point is that, the few times Nintendo INTENDS the player to do something a certain way, they design things to ensure that the player is sort of forced in that direction. Otherwise, there's no intended way to tackle the game.
No more limits. Climbing must stay. I flew from a mountain into Goron City without flame gear by eating the whole way there, I cant go back to having to do some fetch quest anymore.
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@Meowpheel That's... pretty cool, actually. I'm going to have to try that when I get the DLC and play on hard mode. I love that Nintendo took this into account.
I get what Octane was saying. There's technically no intended way to do anything, but I would certainly prefer solving something the non-climbing way every time. Climbing is just a matter of having enough stamina or meals, nothing more.
It's one of the many ways Botw offers underhanded solutions that make the act of solving less enjoyable, and it sets you up for this weird grass-is-greener paradox. Get somewhere by climbing? Congratulations, you just missed out on a long path of enemies, some strategy, some surprises, and maybe a Kass riddle. Did you perhaps get through the part with the enemies? Get ready to feel a bit silly when you realize that the back way was much easier.
It sounds like a contradiction, but its true. As a gamer, I want to have the best experience, but at the same time, it breaks the immersion if I have to go outside of the goals the game has set for me in order for me to seek out the best experience. Ideally, I should be constantly looking for the best and most efficient way to overcome an obstacle, but if I have to start question whether I would even enjoy taking that efficient route, then it is a failure of game design. It makes me stop feeling like a hero who's got a destiny, and more like just a gamer with a game playing in his living room.
Shouldn't we have had a trailer for the 2nd DLC by about now? I hope it doesn't get delayed.
Although it'd be pretty interesting if they ended up effectively making a kind of 10 hour game, like with the Uncharted addon. That'd be worth a delay.
Given that it's featuring the champions, what are the odds that they'll be essentially making the past-version of Hyrule? It's mostly just the central part that's devastated. Wouldn't necessarily be too big a job.
Everything is the intended way, or no way is the intended way. BOTW is more of the latter. The game's essentially points of interest spread across a giant map. It didn't feel like game design, it felt like a procedural generated world. Getting from place A to B isn't a challenge because you can literally avoid any obstacle by... well, avoiding it. After the first few Bokoblin look-out towers, I simply avoided them, because they were pointless. The rewards weren't worth it, and there was an easier way to avoid all of it, by climbing/walking around it. The game turned into a giant memories/shrines fetch quest at point. And people complain about the Triforce hunt in the Wind Waker
Gotta agree with Octane and Nicolai on this one not that it would be a surprise. That being said, I think it's been long enough that restarting the game on hard mode might actually give a breath (of the wild) of fresh air to the game that I feel it sorely needs. Just in time for the DLC, hopefully
The Wii U eshop was saying December before pack 1 was released (now says late 2017) so maybe something like reveal at The Game Awards, release mid-December so Xenoblade 2 is given some time to itself.
I'd keep the climbing. It's the thing that makes BoTW such a liberating game.
I would however introduce restrictions in other areas to guide the gameplay experience a little. For instance I'd limit the ability to change clothing on the fly. Maybe allow it only in inns/stables. If carrying the climbing gear is a real weighty decision I have to make rather than "Ok I'm at a cliff face now, best press start change my gear. Ok I'm at the top now, time to press start and put my ancient armour back on now..." it would add layers to the strategy of the mid-late game (which I feel to be weaker than the opening hours).
It would also allow the designers to introduce more 'soft locked doors' like the rain around Zora's domain if they really wanted to guide players in a more linear fashion.
I don't think it would actually make the game a survival mode (I'm not sure I'd like that), I just think the game as it is loses something mid-game when you become powerful enough to disregard strategy and go into almost every scenario swords swinging. The early game when you're sneakily hiding and hitting exploding barrels etc. is more compelling and the exploration is more interesting when you're limited by things like the temperature.
@rjejr Hmm guess I'll check it out sometime then, unless I give into buying a Switch by then lol.
@Octane I get what you're saying, but climbing and just soaring from the mountaintops is one of my favorite features of BotW, I'd hate to see it go. Keeping it but adding unclimbable surfaces (like the shrine surfaces) or rain would be a better way. A future Zelda game without climbing or jumping would just feel too archaic for my liking IMHO.
@shadow-wolf Not saying they need to remove jumping and climbing altogether, but limit it so you can't climb a perfectly vertical cliff with no repercussions. Like I said, limit climbing to a few metres.
@Tsurii Maybe, but you can still cover a huge distance with full stamina. A real unclimbable wall would need to be gigantic. Limit the climbing too and walls don't have to be unreasonably tall for them to be actual walls.
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