@Bolt_Strike The reason why I said pokemon couldn't be compared to Kirby is because they're two entirely different games with entirely different gameplay types.
As for 3D world, Nintendo had experience with the type of game before. 3D land, and previous 3D marios helped pave the way to 3D world... and 3D Land is largely forgotten about, as it wasn't great at all in comparison. Kirby hasn't had any past 3D games that were actually in the same playstyle as their 2D ones. There was one game that experimented with 3D, but other than that, this is the first one they ever truly made. That being said, the levels are pretty empty, and I'm not going to deny that. Most of the areas in the trailer are just empty halls with nothing in them at all, and while some of the areas looked less empty, others still looked fairly empty.
There's a chance that later trailers will show more of the game, and it'll be better, but I'm not truthfully expecting much, especially with how Star Allies was.
"It is fate. Many have tried, yet none have ever managed to escape it's flow."
@Bolt_Strike this trailer was taken straight out from WIP build, so of course it looks a bit empty and undeveloped. Things could (and should) impove with time, let's look at it again somewhere in early 2022 closer to release.
@Bolt_Strike Problem with that video is that he assumes that all of those guardrails, rocks and whatnot are invisible barriers. Even stuff that looks explorable must have some kind of invisible wall. That seems very counterintuitive game design. If that is true, my interest couldn't be any lower.
@anynamereally Game trailers are made to provide with a sneak peak of what you will be playing, if the trailer isn't representative of the final game, then it's just a bad trailer.
Yeah I very much got the impression that this game will be more 3D World style than anything. Not that that's a problem at all --- the 3D World formula is excellent, plus many of the levels are plenty open enough. And I'm just very glad that HAL are finally making any jump into 3D.
I do wonder how Kirby will control in 3D. Infinite flying is unlikely to be a thing, and I wonder how swallowing will feel as a button press instead of down!
@chipia The Jak series was known for seamless transitions between areas, but I dunno if they'd be considered "open-world" by today's standards. The first game was essentially a number of interconnected levels, but with no wide-open hub as it wasn't technically achievable at the time. The second and third games have a bit more of a central hub...at the cost of the rest of the map feeling a bit tacked on rather than part of a larger open world.
@anynamereally Games rarely make that many changes this close to release. Maybe some optimizations or minor graphical changes, but never anything as major as adding more content to a game.
@Octane They're not assuming, they're predicting. That's their bread and butter, they analyze trailers to predict what the game's going to be like, in no way are they saying for sure it'll be like that. The evidence overwhelmingly points towards it being a linear, enclosed experience, but we don't know for sure.
@Snaplocket Because the game looks empty. There's not a lot of game content populating the areas. For example, let's look at the shopping mall section:
The screenshot of the first floor of the mall shows a fairly open court right before the escalator. Seems like a good place for you to run around and explore right? So what do they have there? Two enemies. That's it. No coins to collect, no blocks to break, no puzzles to solve, nothing to interact with it seems. Maybe there's a secret hidden off-camera, but that's about it. You can probably blow through this section in about 5 seconds before moving on. Doesn't that seem kind of short and dull? You see the same thing through most of the rest of the trailer. The game feels like a giant walking simulator with a smattering of enemies throughout.
They seem to have put way too much time and effort into making the background elements look good than making the actual, interactable portions of the level look fun and engaging. Again, it reminds me of some of the things they've done in 3D Pokemon games. Remember in XY when you had all of those Power Plant buildings but the doors were locked and we couldn't actually get to them? Or in SM where there was a giant golf course that we couldn't actually visit? Or in SwSh where there were buildings in the entire back half of Turffield that weren't explorable? I'm seeing similar design philosophies here. They're making it look like it's this giant city for us to run around in but we're probably not going to be able to interact with much of it and the levels themselves are just going to not just be linear and easy, but empty and simplistic affairs that we can blow through without much to engage with in the levels to keep us occupied.
I do think this might be the recurring issue Nintendo does where they save a lot of the cool stuff for the 2nd trailer. Which is fine here, because the novelty of a 3D Kirby is plenty for now.
It's hard to say exactly where the game is going. I mostly dislike the idea that 3D World is the only linear 3D platformer now, especially since this seems to have a better camera than 3D World quite frankly. This seems for the most part, exactly like a 3D platformer version of Kirby more than anything.
I also have my doubts it will be slow or lacking, its pretty clear this trailer was made to establish the setting and then sloooowly bring Kirby gameplay into it. To the point of it being weird about it, like they spent a minute of Kirby avoiding enemies for no apparent reason (unless they wanted to establish that you can walk around enemies now that its in 3D(!!!), which would be hilarious if that's what they were going for)
@kkslider5552000 The issue of saving stuff for the second trailer is apparent with BotW 2, where they didn't show much at all, making it look more akin to a DLC than a full on sequel.
"It is fate. Many have tried, yet none have ever managed to escape it's flow."
I am wondering if it plays in our world, because of the overgrown buildings and stuff. Maybe it plays in Kyoto and you have to save HAL laboratories? Meta, right?!
Many games will evolve to be bigger experiences not previously possible on handheld. These games were only smaller in scope due to hardware limitations. Lift the limitations and the games are free to become so much more.
But I'd argue Switch is pretty evenly split between console and handheld experiences.
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He was pierced for our transgressions
Players use swords, bombs, and blaster-type pistols to defeat enemies; some weapons allow players to use targeting/crosshairs for ranged firing. Boss battles can be frenetic, with laser fire, explosions, and projectiles flying at Kirby, often from a close-up perspective.
Guess TLOU comparisons aren't that far off, apparently the ESRB leaked that Forgotten Land is going in a more shooter direction. Never would've guessed that, but it's not a totally ridiculous idea.
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