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chipia

@VoidofLight I was never comparing it to Dark Souls. A game that makes you practically invincible IS a very easy game. What else is the definition of easy?

For comparison, Kirby's Adventure isn't Dark Souls either BUT at least it doesn't make you invincible with crazy amounts of potions so it's still better than BOTW in that regards.

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...People keep saying this is going to be like Mario Odyssey, they're going to be very disappointed. lol

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VoidofLight

@chipia I mean, to be honest, BotW has mastermode, which makes the game hard as hell to beat. I could use all the items I have, and still be bested by most of the monsters in the game.

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VoidofLight

@Joeynator3000 Also yeah, this is way more akin to 3D world than odyssey. The levels seem structured, but in 3D this time around.

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Joeynator3000

...Ah well...it'll be funny hearing everyone complain when they figure it out themselves. lol

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Joeynator3000

I mean, the Pokemon games were big and open...but, the problem was that it was just...empty. Also super laggy if online.

This literally looks like a normal Kirby game but in full 3D, just like 3D Land/World. You even see a goal area and it seems like the objective is to save Waddle Dees for some reason. lol

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Octane

It seems open world. I don't think it's level based. I haven't seen anything that makes me believe it is level based. The trailer even shows the central city "HUB", with bridges connecting to other parts of the map. So it's probably neither like 3D World, nor Odyssey lol.

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@Octane Idk its giving me a big sunshine vibe.

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JaxonH

Pretty sure it’s level based.

Per the game description:

Take control of the powerful pink puffball, Kirby, and move around freely in 3D stages

But whether it is or isn’t, I don’t really think too many people are going to care one way or the other. Nobody’s going to be “disappointed” because it doesn’t really matter. 3D is 3D. How that 3D is structured is kind of tangential to the reason people are excited. People loved Odyssey, but people also loved 3D World. It’s not like 3D games are “only fun” when structured a specific way.

Also, as for Zelda BotW, that was a reasonably challenging game for me and I am a little above average in skill level. There’s always going to be people who boast about how easy a game was and how they could beat it blindfolded with one hand. But I think if you ask most normal gamers, they would agree Zelda BotW was reasonably challenging. I know I died more times than I care to remember.

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The Wild areas were never pitched as being more than walled off sections of the game, the rest of which was clearly shown to be more traditional.

This game is not going to have “portions” walled off as 3D. The entire game will be 3D. It could be like Odyssey with a hub or it could be like 3D world with levels, but it doesn’t really matter at the end of the day. Both are viable approaches people enjoy.

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Joeynator3000

I just know everyone's going to think it's open world, then they find out the truth and be completely disappointed and I'll be like "told ya so" lol

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Octane

@Joeynator3000 That's kinda how they framed it. Should've shown a menu screen or level select screen if it isn't. Of course people are going to think open world based on the trailer.

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VoidofLight

@Octane I mean, most initial trailers don't usually show the GUI or menus. It's just best not to assume that something's open world until it's shown to be.

@JaxonH I'll probably be disappointed if I get the game for full price, and it ends up not being good like how it was when I bought star allies. Star Allies tainted my view of this series to be honest.

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@VoidofLight
I'm pretty sure anyone would be disappointed if they bought a game (for any price) and the game wasn't good. That's not exclusive to Kirby.

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Snaplocket

@VoidofLight Star Allies was a perfectly solid Kirby game, what are you talking about?

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VoidofLight

@Snaplocket at launch it was short, and had nothing but the campaign. Can't say anything about the content they added after launch, since I dropped it entirely, but the game took me less than 3 days to beat, and it was easier than Triple Deluxe. The puzzles were dumbed down, since it was built to be multiplayer, and they didn't know how to make it a fun game for people playing it singleplayer. I'd rather play a 2D mario than Star Allies, and I despise 2D Mario.

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Snaplocket

@VoidofLight Meh, that's just your opinion. I'd play it over the New Super Mario Bros games any day.

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VoidofLight

I never really expected the wild areas to be massive or open world. I just expected them to be like most pokemon areas, but on a bit of a bigger scale.

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BenAV

I actually think having separate, somewhat linear levels is generally a better approach for 3D platformers than trying to make something more open. It makes it much easier to just focus on good level design, fun platforming and a large variety of different levels. Having a hub to run around in can be fine but the whole game doesn't need to be open like that.

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chipia

Has there ever even been an actual open-world platformer? Even Mario Odyssey has mostly small and separated regions. However I think a platformer with a world as open as BOTW could be very interesting, although I doubt that Kirby is going to do that...

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