I don't really care what Nintendo does next E3, as long as they learn when to announce stuff.
This year's E3 presentation could've announced/shown off EarthBound Beginnings, the Smash 4 DLC, and Fatal Frame, but they saved those bombshells for before and after their E3 presentation, where they could've put announcements for the games nobody needed to spend half the presentation learning about, like Metroid, Amiibo Crossing, and Mario Maker.
Well critics need to stop pretending that the Digital Event was the only thing they did...when it wasn't
Maybe not, but it is the main event of E3. When the other announcements outshine it, there's something very wrong with the content of their presentation.
Ha, very true; matter of fact I thought about this recently. The reason the Digital Event was so mediocre was because all the big announcements were already made before it even started. Ironically, while I thought the event was disappointing announcement-wise, I still think the line up this year is strong. Maybe Nintendo should save some of the big announcements for their "main event".
Regardless, I much prefer the style of the Digital Events over a live presentation. My favorite parts of e3 are the puppets and the Smash fight between Reggie and Iwata last year. You can't do those live.
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@Tops: They're nice but I find them to be boring and during E3 I found them to be a waste of time, that they otherwise could have used for gameplay or explaining games.
@Tops: They're nice but I find them to be boring and during E3 I found them to be a waste of time, that they otherwise could have used for gameplay or explaining games.
Yeah, the developer stories definitely felt like padding, especially in the 2015 Digital Event. They could've covered several more games that deserved the attention.
Here are some ideas that get some good attributes of both a live and pre-recorded presentation.
1. Do a pre-recored presentation, but stream it in an E3 theater, and broadcast the reactions from that on certain public streams.
2. Introduce live segments into the Nintendo Direct presentation. It could be live from Nintendo's studio, but it would still be live, allowing for the audience verification to occur.
I feel like that is taking the worst parts of both and smashing them together
How so?
In my opinion, nothing destroys an announcement like hearing the crowd yelling in the middle and not hearing the whole title. Live demos are messy and normally don't show off the best of a game or making those demos causes certain areas of a game to be designed differently, because of the demo.
Something that I like from digital events are how I can get excited about announcements without other people interrupting or ruining the moment and what I like about seeing new gameplay is seeing it happen well. It is silly to me when someone is getting beat up a lot and their health is barely affected or when a controller disconnects and we are looking at their pause menu for 5 minutes. Also by having live game demos shown from Nintendo HQ means people need to be there to play them and who do you want to play? Put someone that isn't important there because you want the creator at E3 or have the creator show off the game and have them miss out on talking to press at E3? I don't know, I just don't like it, sorry.
I agree about the crowd. That's why I mentioned it'd only be available on CERTAIN streams. You could also watch the pure presentation. Part of the purpose of a demo is that's it's not clean. It doesn't exclusively show off the best parts of a game, so it can feel a lot more honest (unless it's Ubisoft). That's what Nintendo needs to be able to show with a new console, real demonstrations of what the system can do. This is especially true if they are doing a unique control scheme. A pre-recorded video simply doesn't have the same honesty portraying how a control scheme works that a live demonstration.
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@skywake: But you're missing numbers for probably the biggest distributor of all the live conferences. Twitch. I wonder if Nintendo has estimates on how many views that would bring in.
Plus, this is all from Youtube. And I'll confess, I'm not clear on whether Nintendo ACTUALLY streamed this stuff through Youtube, or are these just views "after the fact," so to say? In other words, I think this data is fundamentally flawed. Without including Twitch data or, at the least, data on what the other "Big 2" clocked on their live conferences this year, you really can't say that one format has more views than another. And also, the whole "after the fact" thing vs. live streaming needs to be rectified.
Nintendo did stream on youtube live, both events. And I'm not sure whether or not they counted live-viewers in the final count but from memory it was sitting at ~70k live for the direct when I was watching on twitch. Far less than the final number. And if you think twitch is the only thing that matters then when you look at twitch archive (which clearly doesn't count the live-viewers) the NWC has a much higher view count. Consistent with what the youtube numbers show. Those same metrics? They also show that the live show in 2012 had less reach than the big E3 direct of the same year. You can't get much more black and white than that.
If what we're really after are live demos I'd argue that they should keep the two seperate. Have the Nintendo Direct as the main show and put all of the fun and announcements in there. Get us hyped about the first showings of whatever. That's what we stay up to watch. Then demo the stuff through an unscripted competition or post-direct stream. I mean what's wrong with doing this as a replacement for the "stage demo" and having all the rest pre-recorded? If we're worried about them not "being honest" then surely a fully unscripted and demo in the form of a contest or something is far better. I think without question the format they've landed on works better.
Basically, the format they've found works better than what they had. So no I don't think they should go back to a live E3. The pre-recorded direct clearly works better both in terms of the numbers and in terms of just being more entertaining. If there's something they can't demonstrate in that format? Well then they do a presentation separate to that. Make it into a contest.
I agree about the crowd. That's why I mentioned it'd only be available on CERTAIN streams. You could also watch the pure presentation. Part of the purpose of a demo is that's it's not clean. It doesn't exclusively show off the best parts of a game, so it can feel a lot more honest (unless it's Ubisoft). That's what Nintendo needs to be able to show with a new console, real demonstrations of what the system can do. This is especially true if they are doing a unique control scheme. A pre-recorded video simply doesn't have the same honesty portraying how a control scheme works that a live demonstration.
Two problems:
1. Nintendo is usually the most honest out of all the presenters.
2. Nintendo has the Treehouse for live demonstrations
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I'd be absolutely fine with it, as long as we're still getting Treehouse Live. I don't care what they do at E3 as long as they do NOT, NOT, NOOOOOOOOOOOOT get rid of Treehouse Live.
Seriously, that segment really needs to stay.
I always prefer live press conferences than a direct for E3. It's great to see the audience's reaction. Also, seeing the hardware being used on stage would give a greater overall understanding of the console and its features than them showing the bits they want to show us in a prerecorded message.
I'll accept the their Digital Events have been doing ok recently, but there's a lot more hype they could build for a new console in a live stage show than a prerecorded message.
Directs are always more entertaining, more engaging and more informative than press conferences.
The only thing Press Conferences do better with, in my opinion, is to get the Press hyped. Press Hype has been key these few E3s and has been 1 area Nintendo has struggled since they started doing Directs. But that is just my opinion
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
Well if the latest NX rumours are to be believed (games will be digital and cartridge based to allow cross compatibility between console and handheld) then I think that Nintendo HAS to do a live conference as people will want to see such a drastic change in media (which has me concerned that this will be another Wii - basing success on another gimmick) for themselves. I think that Nintendo also need to seriously decide on whether they're competing with Sony and Microsoft, or depending on the leftover consumer market. If the former then they need to go live, if the latter then a direct should suffice.
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