Topic: The Nintendo Switch Online Subscription Service Thread

I have absolutely no care for online NES games, but the second I can play SNES or maybe even eventually N64 games online, I'll consider it a good trade off for $20

While I'm hopeful that SNES games will eventually be added, I don't think N64 or Gamecube games are likely. Those are more likely to be made into a port that's sold on it's own, if anything. That said, I'd love a chance to play Super Mario Sunshine. I played it a bit at McDonald's back when one of the local stores had a gamecube set up with Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion. I'll be honest here, those two games are the main reason I own a Gamecube now. But I'm having trouble tracking down a copy of Sunshine.

Cloud saves are deleted when your subscription expires according to the Switch Online FAQ.

Bahaha, that’s so bad it’s comical. So cloud saves are essentially like a rental storage facility. Meh, that was never a selling point for me, anyway. I actually turned off cloud saves on 360 and X1 because sometimes it would act up and get in a weird ‘syncing’ cycle that wouldn’t end.

Gulp...
Better i make a note when i had make subcription.

I'm glad they included NSW in the presentation but....we still no nothing new. We know there's "deals" but they'll "tell us more at a later date" (the service launches in 4 days............) We still do not know how to create/manage users on a family plan, at all. They still talk about cloud saves as disaster recovery for system transfers, not for moving files between systems, and thus we still don't know if they intend to unlock the hardware binding of eShop purchases and let us move games and saves to whatever machine we log into. And they're presenting cloud saves/disaster recovery as though it's a great unique feature to be able to have peace of mind about your saves as though Switch is not the only console from any vendor in 2 generations that doesn't let you do that without an online service, locally.

The Direct was amazing with shock reveals I none of us saw coming. And it did it's job of obscuring the fact that they still have no idea what they're doing, and have no good way to spin the online service that still can't keep up with features the 3DS and WiiU managed to do for free...and I don't mean online gaming.

More games, more fun, more money! 5 new features! Play games online (like you're already doing now)! Use cloud saves (as a paid disaster recovery alternative your last 7 consoles let you do locally too!) Use the phone app (of which not a single good word has ever been uttered!) Play NES games (hey we have a feature here!) Buy special deals and offers for members (sssshhhh, it's a secret to everyone. Even you. Money first!) Your games are probably still locked to one piece of hardware and we don't intend to tell you how to add the other 7 users to your family account. Also this is mandatory in 96 hours.

Sound bad, sound pointless, sound like the worst marketing you've ever seen? Well....uhh...uhmm.....

HEY LOOK OVER THERE IT'S ANIMAL CROSSING KTHXBAI!!!

@Grumblevolcano It's the same on PS IIRC. Only XBox keeps your saves forever and ever because for them the cloud saves isn't part of the paid service, they just give cloud space for free (just as every Windows install includes a few gig of OneDrive. I'd let my Sony sub lapse a year or 2 and had none of my saves. I let my XBLG sub lapse 7 years and it's all still there

@NEStalgia great points and something I agree with and if I wrote that people would’ve called me negative or Sony fanboy etc.
I thought the direct was brilliant but online service although really cheap I don’t really find any value other than playing online just like before. Honestly not too bothered about the nes games as I have these in my 3ds/wiiu nes mini but can understand how it’s great for someone with only a switch.

I think everyone has more than one profile so everyone needs a family subscription so it’s not really really cheap as with psn you buy online and everyone shares on the console

Can also agree that their online features are laughably basic and some (like deleting a cloud save the moment a subscription runs out) are downright backwards.

but that assumes someone would be interested in all 20 games enough to buy them. And the more years you sub, the more those games will cost.

But you can't know that for sure and even if it does come, you can't be sure when. As of this moment the value of the sub is a handful of nes games, cloud save and online play. Everything else is pure speculation.

At a pace of 3 games per month, a 1 year sub from launch will get you 53 games for $20. That’s a value for me, and still cheaper than the old $1/day rental from the supermarket during the NES days

Weird, but online service starts during Yom Kippur (Jewish Day of Atonement)
Is this for the destruction of Virtual Console?

The nes mini was great value

Question: does anyone know if the "family membership" extends to friends? Because there's one I wanted to include in the equation. I owe him the same service on Xbox, so, you know, even stevens and all that.

@MisterPi
Hopefully the service can at least be renewed before it expires.

You can add anyone to your family group as far as I know.

As long as they don't start checking IPs like Spotify.....

@1UP_MARIO Well, we still don't know if the family plan means 'each user on one console' or if all users on a primary console are covered if the owner of the primary has a plan. That's part of the fail of the presentation. That's an important detail. One could assume it works like all other platforms, but they leave it vague. You could be right. I'm still optimistic that if the account of the owner of the "primary" switch has a membership it applies to the whole Switch. Nintendo wants Switch to be like DS where everyone in the family has their own Switch, so I have presumed so far that "8 members" means "8 primary Switches", not "8 accounts on one Switch." That would be pretty sleazy if they sold subscription cards at retail for single but not family plans but every user on the system needed their own account (and a CC on file to qualify for pricing), espeically since they don't tell you that.

I'm optimistic on that one. But we don't know, because they still tell use nothing, and I firmly believe part of that is because they don't realize there's things that need to be considered like that. I also wonder about my Japanese account....hopefully the accounts aren't region locked and my account set to Japan can join in.

@ReaderRagfish
So I can return the favor! Hooray!

@Yosheel Eww, I'm starting to strongly dislike Spotify. Shame they had the best interface of all the music services (and I've tried them all...)

@Yosheel @Readerragfish AlexSora89 The fact that we're actually having this conversation about basics such as "how do I actually sign up members in my group plan" including guesses, assumptions and FAQ interpretation is pretty much exactly what is so disastrous about this rollout. I'm still fairly convinced they don't actually know much about or understand the service themselves. I can smell an outsource job a mile away, and this whole online service is an outsource job. They're learning while we do. They're making Sony look competent at online. That's a whole new level of fail. Do you need an account for every user on one console? Can you add other people not under your parental control? Either way how do you extend your service umbrella to them? We don't know. In 4 days those 8 people can't play Splatoon and such anymore, and we don't even know how to set them up to continue even after we've paid the extortion money.

Well they enabled the creation of family groups in may.

There's no mistery about that. Go and check it out.

Yep, they gave out this group information already. In fact, it's probably the most straightforward answer available about the service.

I just read the short FAQ in its entirety, and I have absolutely NO questions about how any of it works.
Fun facts I learned;
-That 7-day free trial is going to auto renew into a $4 1-month; so I'll need to cancel it 48 hours before the end and add in my 1 year sub
-I can stack sub lengths to a total of 3 years; All the folks using the example of 'forgetting to renew' and losing cloud backups could extend their sub at any time before the end date.