Topic: Monster Hunter Rise

So, Monster Hunter Rise is basically Diet Coke Monster Hunter World 2.0 for the Nintendo Switch? Fine by me as long as the monster battles in the beginning arent crazy hard like in Monster Hunter World

@Apportal Sorry about that, I was genuinely curious. Wasn't sure if I'd missed something major or what?

@link3710 nah your good. I was saying that Nintendo hasn’t had that many games this year aside from New Horizons, Paper Mario, All Stars and Pikmin 3. But smaller games like this are abundant.

I've never traditionally been interested in MonHun games, but I'm really digging the Japanese aesthetic, and it appears that it might have a bit more of a story, which would be a plus in my book as well.

@Apportal Ah gotcha. See, I consider something like Monster Hunter Rise, Shin Megami Tensei V, or No More Heroes III to be bigger than titles like Wii U ports or a mediocre looking Paper Mario, hence my confusion.

So generations is now discounted on the eshop for 16. Now is probably as good a time as ever to try it out. But man....mario collection tomorrow..

This looks more like an open world/fast paced version. Just what i was looking for. Will buy this one i think.

But that still doesn't make sense. Your original post saying "There seems to be many interesting indie games coming, but there aren't many AAA games releasing" was responding to Magician, who was referring to the games coming out next year, not this year, on all platforms, not just Nintendo. There isn't exactly a set definition of what a AAA company is, although there is some general consensus on certain ones (like Capcom, Atlus, and Square Enix), but if it goes against your definition of AAA, then fine. But that certainly does not make them indie companies.

Anyway, it's not that big of a deal, just a little confusing, and I probably shouldn't be derailing the purpose of the thread.

On a related note, the collectors edition of the game comes with one of the amiibo:

It's a little unfortunate the 3 amiibo seem to be exclusive to Gamestop/EB Games, in NA at least. Hopefully the stock isn't too limited.

Balan Wonderworld is Square Enix, @link3710.... The studio has a couple of people from the older Sonic games but nothing to do with Sega

Just browsing around some other forums, seeing fools saying Rise looks worse than Generations Ultimate.

It was expected that some would be upset about it being Switch Exclusive. I can really see this game selling way more than people are giving it credit for.

There is a fair amount of pop-in and pop-out going by the footage shown so far, and outside the base village the environments consistently look pretty duochrome grey-green, so it's probably worth tempering expectations a bit, but it still looks enticing, just in a PS3 kinda way 😋

@-Green-

MHGU sold what... 3.1+ million copies?

https://nintendosoup.com/monster-hunter-generations-ultimate-...

With the popularity of MHW, combined with the Switch's install size of 80 million (rough guess) at the time of launch in March, I assume MHR will sell 5 million copies in the first few months of release no sweat. Although I feel that's selling it short.

@JaxonH

Jax, what are your thoughts on MHR's sales potential?

@Northwind

Gamestop is closing up to 450 stores before March.

But they'll still have 4,500+ stores open globally after that.

No doubt they're dying slowly, soon to be the next Hollywood Video, Sears, etc.

@Magician
Lifetime?

7 million baseline, 9 million ceiling.

I think Japan will see 4 million sold, as opposed to the traditional 3 million of 3DS entries. And I think the west will see 3-5 million sold as opposed to the 1 million of Generations Ultimate.

For now, 7 million is my estimate, but it really just depends on how many World players buy in. A sizable portion will just act like fanboys and get salty about it and pretend the game doesn’t exist because, out of site out of mind. Everyone else will care more about playing the game then entertaining silly fanboy wars. How many it’s hard to say. I think the insane sales of world are not going to be repeated, not with this game and not with the follow up to world. I base that on the fact that the ultimate version couldn’t even manage half the sales of the base game. It hasn’t even hit 6 million yet, digital included. Which means a large portion of the people who bought into the base game were not retained as permanent customers. So expecting that kind of response again is unrealistic. For any MH game going forward. But being the initial release will draw more than a follow up Ultimate version, and being on Switch which is mega hot in the US right now, I think 3 million sales is easily doable. 5 may be a stretch for the west, but we’ll see.

Again, this is lifetime. Don’t expect to see these kind of numbers by the end of 2021. Nintendo Switch evergreens have long legs. This will definitely be one of them.

@gcunit
It had the look of the older style maps, and a more realistic design. But this looks way better than any PS3 game ever could have. In fact it looks remarkably similar to World, and shows just what can be done on a Switch when built ground up. I think a lot of the other maps won’t all have that same realistic greenery design, because the base looked very colorful.

It’s not quite as pretty as World, but it’s a good middle ground between 7th gen and 8th gen. The fact it was built ground up for the system clearly helped.

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I’m gonna say 10 million. The Switch has continuously shattered mine and everyone else’s expectations in terms of sales. Pokémon, Mario, Zelda, Animal Crossing etc. Monster Hunter is a big enough series, especially after World, that I can see it going that far. Even more so with how long it’s been since GU was ported over. I can see it shattering expectations again.

@-Green-
I definitely won’t rule out 10 million. I do think it’s possible.

But if I had to assign probabilities, I think the 7 million range is most likely. That said, Switch is expanding at an ENORMOUS pace this year. It will break 100 million sold by end of next year. Which means Monster Hunter very well could shatter my expectations, particularly if the new fans are serious about being fans.

We OG hunters have followed the series wherever it’s gone. Hopping from platform to platform. Wii U? I was there. 3DS? I was there. Switch? I was there. PS4? I was there. Now back to Switch? Of course I’ll be there. We love the series enough that we don’t let arbitrary lines in the sand keep us from what we love. But now we’re about to find out if the new fans love the series as much as we do. We’re about to find out if the new fans are also willing to follow the series wherever it goes. Are they fans like we are? Or are they fair weather? Time will tell.

If they are true fans, like we’ve been, they’ll be there day one right alongside the rest of us to usher in this new generation of portable monster hunting. And if that’s the case, we very well could go double digits. For now though, i’m trying to keep my expectations tempered.

I'll hop on Green's train and say 10 million is quite possible.

@JaxonH I think you're failing to take into account the usual DLC fall off. Pokemon third versions sell notably well, but despite no loss of interest in the series they usually hit about 2/3 the base game at best. Persona 5 Royal was a record for reversioned copies of Persona at about 1/3 of what the base game sold. I could keep listing examples, but for what we actually have sales numbers on, it's shown that even strong selling series have a significant drop off in DLC / revised versions sales.

So, the fact that it's only about 40% of people who bought Iceborn doesn't suggest that only that subset of people would be interested in Rise. Quite the contrary, a new game could bring about World numbers again. I don't think it'll go quite that high, but I do see 10 mill being quite possible lifetime.

Is MH generations ultimate easy enough to get into? Havent played a game in the series yet. I did try the demo back when it dropped but I dont think I gave it a fair shake

@NintendoByNature

MHGU is old school MH. It doesn't have the quality-of-life changes found in MHW. The seamless zone transitioning being the best QOL improvement imo. MHR appears it'll bridge the gap between the old and the new. So I hate to dissuade anyone from dipping their toe into MH, but MHR might be a better introduction to the series than MHGU.