Topic: DOOM

@EvilLucario Basing it just off the trailer seems like a bad idea.

Reading more into it and it's apparently more than that? (They said they played 40 minutes of it) I couldn't watch the video so I can't say anything about it. But DF is really trustworthy and reliable, so them taking down a video like this... something is up.

if DF are right and the game uses dynamic resolution which goes low as 540p then damn that is some huge downgrade.

Memories of borderlands on Vita people.

Anyway let's wait and see to DF do a real test on actual switch hardware. They built a PC running switch specs and tested Doom running on it.

@MarcelRguez BotW runs better undocked than docked at points. DF made a video on that when it got patches to smooth out framerate.

I think it comes down to hardware the most, but depending on how the game was optimized undocked might be better. But that's more the exception than the rule.

@EvilLucario but the target FPS both docked and undocked was still 30fps. From my understanding the switch dock cannot target 60fps then undocked it goes down to 30fps.

@kobashi100 At this point I'm just willing to wait for the impressions embargo to be really lifted so we get better, concrete information. There's a lot of conflicting reports lately, I think.

@EvilLucario If Digital Foundry removed the video, either they made a mistake with details or it went up too early and have merely unlisted it/made it private until the embargo is up. Either way 30 fps is too much of a problem for me. And it starts to raise concerns about Wildenstein 2 coming to the Switch.

Getting it either way. Day 1

@EvilLucario DF definitely did play it last week. Couldn't do any tests though, from first glance they reckon 30fps.

All tests in video are from a custom built pc to replicate switch specs

@MegaTen yeah it seems pretty pointless test to be honest.

@kobashi100 It's all about those clicks/video views. Regardless if the game is running on actual hardware or not and how well it performs, this kind of thing is gold for sites like Eurogamer and Digital Foundry. You only need to look at the kind of comments left in the articles and on YouTube to see the kind of reaction it can provoke.

Digital Foundry do a good job at analysing gameplay footage so I am interested to know how clear they will make it that this is an early build and not running on actual hardware.

https://twitter.com/pixelpar/status/910805905683501057

But this guy's source was also pulled down. lol

Nintendo Ninjas at work?

@Bart_T well as I stated the issue is irrational childhood fear. Like I said I'll get it but the fact that it is doom and that scared me as a kid means that I have a ingrained reaction to it. I have the PC version as well (friend talked me into it) and I didn't get very far. Sometimes we react to things irrationally.

This move seems especially irresponsible of DF. I don't think of of us doubted that vanilla DOOM would run poorly on the Switch. I want to see how it runs on the customized engine of the Switch version.

@Peek-a-boo Nothing has been confirmed. Different sources are saying different things and DF apparently didn't get to test the actual Switch version.

I don't think Bethesda would allow an unplayable version of Doom to launch. Plus already announcing Wolfenstein 2 makes me believe they can do their games justice on the system. At this point I don't care what the frame rate is as long as it's constant. I'm buying it either way!

DF took the down the Doom video. Man what is going on with this port? Some say it's 60 frames and another says 30.

@FragRed
You do realize Wolfenstein was always 30fps right?

People are so consumed with this "anything less than 60 is unplayable" mindset that even games running at 30fps on other consoles are being put on blast.

@JaxonH 30 frames is unplayable for people who are used to 60. So that's why people have that mind set, 30 makes the game sluggish and awful to them.

I like how as soon as DF pulled a video of them playing the PC version using Switch specs (Not accounting for custom build and optimisation as well as APIs) instead of the actual release...people started bashing.

I mean...come on people. Its a crappy thing for them to do but it also shows their word isnt gospel. They just flat out lied.

And if the video goes back up theyll have some clarifying to do.

@MsJubilee
Unplayable is a very strong word. A game that physically won't run is unplayable. A game at a stable 30 is incredibly playable. People just set perfect standards and refuse to budge an inch.

Wolfenstein is 30. Destiny is 30. Tons of games, shooters even, are 30.

And the people who think a game has to be 60... It's funny that the game isn't actually running at 60 on other consoles yet it's somehow fine. Running sub-60 was perfectly ok for DOOM then, why wouldn't it be ok now? If it's locked, it'll be almost just as good.

I play plenty of games at 60fps. Yet a stable 30 isn't unplayable for me. That's crazy to think a game is unplayable wirh a stable 30fps.

Anyone who has a "60 or bust" mindset shouldn't own a Switch. Millions of others who will perfectly enjoy the game and likely won't even care or notice