41skywakeSun 4th Mar 2018 noobish_hat wrote: Jesus. People would be happy to pay for online with Melee because... get this, they haven't already been playing it online for free all last gen. You see the difference? Something they used to have for free versus something brand new? Same difference with Smash 4 and Smash 5. Not a complicated point. Separate your whine about online from the actual discussion at hand and you'll understand what I'm saying. This isn't about having to pay for online now vs not having to pay for it before. It's about whether or not a Deluxe port of Smash Bros 4 would be enough to not warrant a Smash 5. All I'm saying is that a Smash Bros of any kind would be a big enough deal to be part of a promotion for a new online service. Now if you can explain what a Smash 4 Deluxe can't do that a Smash 5 could I'm all ears. But so far nobody has explained what it could actually have that is so necessary. Would it look better? No. Would it have new mechanics? Probably not. It'd have new stages and characters for sure but there's no reason why a Smash 4 Deluxe couldn't do the same. So explain to me, without mentioning online, why is Smash 5 necessary? Some Aussie musics: Pond, TFS, Genesis Owusu "Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"