Topic: Nintendo Switch 2

@Joeynator3000
The last thing i want is another monthly bill, just to get hit by a slow-drip release schedual. I'd rather just buy the games separately just like we could back with the Wii's VC. I had my Wii hooked up to a 32" FullScreen Sony WEGA SD CRT(Final 2006 model/series), with component cables and it was a perfect match for the Virtual Console back in the later 2000's. Perfect blur-free motion clarity unlike the TV's of today, and zero latency. Vs those god awful smearing LCD & LED TV's with noticeable lag that paved the way in the later 2000's and onwards.

Plasmas overall were better in terms of Picture quality, but the latency was even higher. But now with QD-OLED we've got perfect blacks, they're self submissive like CRT & Plasma, have great brightness, 4K, 120fps, HDR and whatever else. Motion clarity is still poor unless you use top tier black frame insertion through a scaler(Like RetroTINK4K) or run games at 120fps like Prime 4 to cut down 50% of that blur that's drenching the motion clarity...Which definitely makes a dif', but there's still 50% of the blur left compared to a CRT. I'm just rambling as always, but there may be 240hz QD-OLED TV's in 2026, and with TINK4K, 240hz bfi will remove 75% of QD-OLED motion blur, edging out even the greatest plasmas. Think Pioneer. getting you 25% closer to CRT motion clarity. That would be incredible. But for now, in order to gaint that 75% reduction in blur you would be limited to 1080p in SDR. But i'm perfectly fine with that for now.

Anyways, blah blah. Back to Analogue. I just wish they would re-stock & sell their Super Nt, Mega Sg and revemp their Nt Mini(NES) into a smaller better design that plays better tribute to the OG NES. That would be the perfect solution for playing NES, SNES & Genesis games on modern displays. You bypass emulation lag, get a better CRT Filter, no weird color inaccuracies, combined with and a ton of options to play and tinker with. I think they allow you to shrink the games 4:3 screen size/aspect ratio down to your liking if your HDTV happens to be too large. NSO games in CRT mode, are like nearly 45" in 4:3 on my 55" which is just way too big. 8-16 bit consoles, including Saturn, PS1 & N64, imo look best at 27" - 32".

The only two Analogue Systems currently available for sale brand new are the Duo(TurboGrafx) & 3D(N64).

Pikmin 3 running at 60fps @1080p+, with Mouse support for NS2. I'm down.

Based on my preference, the Wii U version using the Wii Remote, Nunchuck + SensorBar, for TV-play, while having the Wii U's game pad on a kickstand on your coffee table, solely to use as Map with it's display is the definitive way to control & play the game.

But, a potential 60fps NS2 bump may lour me in and forgo that precious Wii U control set up, and either just use NS2 mouse or stick controls. As is, I just can't get on board with either the deteched Joy-Con 1's gyro aiming or pro Controller Gyro for P3. Cross hair drifting always fumbles & drifts, it's never all that reliable and i can't stand having to press a button constantly to re-center the cross hair. Same thing applies to the NS ports of Pikmin 1&2. Wii versions play much better if motion pointer aiming is your thing. Besides, P1&2 don't even look all that great in 1080p. the dated low res ground textures, especially when you zoom in with the camera for ex, look jarring compared to how crispy and HD the characters look on screen.

I'll say it again, but GameCube/Wii-Tier visuals don't always look too hot in either 1080p and 4K. 480i(+ Component) helps midigate or hide that stuff, and just makes these games look more organic, round and natural. Once you get to Wii U however, that's when you'll obviously want 1080p.

@Joeynator3000
Personally I feel like I got most of the value out of NSO through the voucher program (RIP), bundled DLC/S2 Editions and stuff like F-Zero. And that alone becomes worth it when you split the cost across multiple users via the family plan

The fact that there are classic games on there is just a nice bonus. Not something I keep my subscription for, but a nice convenience. If they cut the classic games from NSO it wouldn't really change much for me. Although I will admit, GameCube and N64 on NSO is nice given N64 emulation can be a bit finicky and GC emulation requires a bit more horsepower. I'd rather play GC on Switch 2 than Steam Deck, personally

They should really bring back vouchers as a NSO expansion pack feature. The very sporadic DLC (and now sporadic Switch 2 version updates) were too person-specific and e.g. the Splatoon 2 DLC eventually got pretty out-of-date; vouchers would be a more continuing value.

@Joeynator3000
I view my NSO more for the cloud save and online play.

@JaxonH Re: MHW

I just hope it'll support Cross-save so I can import my save from my time playing the game on PS5.

@Khwarezm89
Ya, something tells me it won't lol. I've just been there too many times with Capcom and MH games.

Kinda glad I stopped playing before putting much time into it.

@skywake
Splitting NSO+ across family plan, making cost $10 USD per YEAR, is just too good to pass up. It's half the price of the base NSO which was already just $20. Cloud saves are mandatory anyways. And honestly, never really cared about playing on "original systems". Too lazy for all that, not enough room, not enough HDMI ports, not enough tolerance for turning on additional systems and not having hybrid.

When I play on NS2, if I move the analog does the character move? Ya? OK check. When I press a button does the character jump? Ya? OK fantastic. This is where I'll play then.

@JaxonH I've got some caps, a friend gave me some, and I like them. As for my next JoyCon, I'm holding out for the next Mobapad creation, as the M6's are the best controller I have owned...at least before Nintendo released their new Pro Controller. I read on their site that they need to develop their own rumble, and that is what is holding them back...but it's been about a month since I last checked in on where they are at. Their goal is to make it every bit as good as Nintendo's.

@Lazz
I agree the M6 HD were superb. The only 3rd party joycon with the following:

• Actual HD Rumble
• NFC
• Wireless
• System Wake
• 17 Hour Battery Life
• Rear Mappable Grip Buttons
• Turbo/Macro
• Mechanical Buttons
• Best D-pad I've Ever Used
• Swappable D-pad Rocker
• Swappable Analogs
• Swappable Faceplates
• 6-Axis Gyro
• Ergonomic, But Not Too Bulky

Whenever the Mobapad M12HD release I'm all over that. Though I must say, the combination I'm using now with Jsaux Grips, D-pad and Analog Caps is pretty dang slick.

@FishyS
To be fair the DLC bundled to the expansion have been with super popular games that most people were playing anyways. Mario Kart 8 and Animal Crossing in particular, I would say most people in my family group took advantage of those. But yeah, even with that, the vouchers have been the most consistent value to be had through NSO+

Really, you only need to find $30AU/year value for the upgrade from NSO to NSO+ to be worth it for a single user. $27AU if you have two in a family plan, $18AU for three, $6.75AU if you have the full complement of 8. The vouchers made that relatively easy to achieve consistently

With that said, this last year NSO+ gave me the two Zelda Switch 2 Editions which I would've 100% purchased outright if not for NSO+. So that's $40AU right there and it has already comfortably paid for itself. Even before I account for the voucher I used to get Prime 4 cheaper (although admittedly in this case because retailers seem to be running away from the Switch 2 game premium here it only worked out to be $2AU less than the cheapest physical retail copy)

I paid for 3 years in advance this time in my group of 8. $30 USD covered me til October 2028.

I refuse to pay $180/yr for the highest tier of PS+ or whatever insane amount Xbox wants nowadays. But for $10/yr for the highest tier of NSO? Say no more. Lock it in.

Tomb Raider Reboot is now crossbuy on NS1 and NS2 btw, so if you purchased either version you can now download the other for free.

Yeah, got the damn expansion pack, I just...missed some of these games, and emulating them is a nightmare and always so glitchy. Anyways, playing through Wario World (half-way through now), kinda forgot some of the bosses in this game, was going through 1-2 trying to figure out who it was. Then I realized I could not remember at all who the 3rd major boss was, seeing the door to it in the hub area pretty much jogged my memory. xD

(yeah of course the bosses are the only things I cared about in this game, they're fun. Well, the music is also pretty good in general, lol)

@Joeynator3000 loved Wario world, played through it a couple weeks back. Might play Luigi’s mansion or chibi robo

@NintendoByNature I may play some N64 games after this, dunno yet...but I saw Jet Force Gemini and...that was one game I could never beat back then as a kid. I got to the end but could never figure out what to do after the 3rd major boss. lol

Sin & Punishment 2 on Wii was one of the best on-rail shooters I've ever played. Even topped Kid Icarus Uprising, and offered 2P co-op.

The original Sin & Punishment on N64 isn't as good, not nearly so, but it's still worth checking out imo. Definitely doesn't feel as good as using motion to aim, though.

@Joeynator3000
Yeah having the option to purchase the games would have been a godsend to me, kind of like with the psone games added to ps+ where you can purchase them separately from the service for if theres those games you really want to keep, ive only picked up a couple on that since i prefer to play games handheld (plus mainly use my playstation for FFXIV anyway) but did notice when trying to buy "the legend of dragoon" that the game had counted as already been purchased because i had bought it as part of the "psone classics" line back on psp/ps3.

one thing im curious about with switch 2 is with all the hyperbole and drama going about online and all the ragebait youtube thumbnails... Has there been any vague idea of how the whole ram crisis would end up affecting the Switch 2, as in an educated guess or even potential situation, i know these kinds of things are unpredictable and its not like anyone could give a close to definitive idea without actually working for nintendo (or having an uncle that does) but i imagine there are many, many people who know more than i do about these kinds of things at least.

@Mgalens
At worst, price increases by $50, imo.

But I honestly don't think that's going to happen. The NS2 is already $150 more expensive than when NS1 launched, $100 more than when NS1 OLED launched. Granted it's only $50 more than NS1 OLED now, but that's overpriced.

Nintendo knows full well the quanity demanded decreases as price increases, and they're already walking a thin line. I do not think they'd have the guts to entertain a $500 base NS2. I just don't. I could be wrong, but I think they are going to be very resistant to any further price increases.

Instead, they'll subsidize those losses in other ways, such as eliminating any bundles, which we've already seen, and recouping expenses via higher NS1 prices and higher accessory prices, which we've already seen.

They may be a little more cavalier with their base console pricing model nowadays, but I don't think they're stupid. They know good and well how disastrous it would be to increase NS2 to $500, watch demand suddenly drop and not only have to deal with the bad PR and "Switch 2 is struggling" articles, but also likely have to do an about face and reverse the price to salvage the situation.

@JaxonH ...Do you still want to play Rise at some point? Dunno what else to do in it besides grinding anomaly quests, though...one day I'll get them up to 300 and see what these Special versions are all about...lol

@Mgalens
To add to what @JaxonH said it's worth noting that the Switch 2 has less RAM and less flash storage than the PS5. And certainly less than the PS6 will have. Honestly the RAM prices mostly are hitting PCs where 32GB of system memory plus 16GB VRAM wasn't unusual, that's 4x the amount the Switch 2 has