@FishyS Unlikely physical would cost more than digital. They’re usually priced the same.
I meant in the sense that with vouchers Nintendo games are currently $60 physical, $50 digital. Maybe it will change to 70/60.
Although given that with physical there are costs associated to materials, transport, and the store taking a large cut of the profits, it would make sense if digital were cheaper than physical.
Since digital games have drawbacks (can't resell), it seems stingy of Nintendo to give no incentive at all given that they are making more money per game from digital even after incentives.
I meant in the sense that with vouchers Nintendo games are currently $60 physical, $50 digital. Maybe it will change to 70/60.
Although given that with physical there are costs associated to materials, transport, and the store taking a large cut of the profits, it would make sense if digital were cheaper than physical.
Since digital games have drawbacks (can't resell), it seems stingy of Nintendo to give no incentive at all given that they are making more money per game from digital even after incentives.
If Switch 2 games get the voucher treatment, expect them to be priced at $120 in a similar fashion to how Switch games cost $60 but vouchers cost $100.
Maybe with the discontinuation of gold points with no replacement in set they might do more eShop sales more often.
@PikminMarioKirby Honestly, the Teraleak makes it clear that Gamefreak pretty much wants to do Legends in the place of Remakes. These are our remakes now I believe. BDSP was only made as a response to TPCi not knowing if an experimental title would bode well in the eyes of Diamond and Pearl fans...
I hope so tbh - I've been quite vocal about Pokemon remakes being a bit of an unnecessary thing since ORAS and I'm happy they're coming up with creative, novel ways for us to revisit old regions rather than wasting resources to create remakes that (i) aren't necessarily better than the originals, (ii) will themselves also become outdated before we know it.
Now if only they'd just port the old games as well...
@Grumblevolcano With the exception of Metroid Prime 4, I highly doubt they spend time on Switch 1 titles in their big Switch 2 blowout Direct. Wasting time talking about games for the old system does NOT send a good message.
@NinChocolate Pretty much the only way Nintendo could kill my hype for the Switch 2 would be if they came out and announced a bunch of games that are also compatible with Switch 1. I want to see nothing but new games that properly utilise the new hardware that I'll be dropping a lot of money on. I'm not interested in Switch 1 games with slightly improved visuals/performance.
@BenAV I'm guessing the special April direct will be Switch 2 only but that later in the year (June?) there will be a normal direct with software for both Switch 1 and 2.
@Grumblevolcano I don't think we'll see Switch 1 titles as a 15-20 minute focus. They'll probably focus more on the Switch 2 itself and the games releasing for it.
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@IceClimbers@VoidofLight Do you think they'll go beyond year 1 this time then so like announcing games for 2027? Considering Switch 2 is backwards compatible with Switch 1 games, I figure there'd be fewer Switch 2 exclusives if Nintendo's Switch 1 support after Switch 2 launch is 3DS-like so for example year 1 being 3-4 Switch 2 exclusives and 5-6 Switch 1 games filling in the gaps in between.
@Dev-N@Novamii The January 2017 Switch Presentation was an hour long but was a live event, I think that specific presentation could be cut down to a 45-50 minutes Direct as a result of how pre-recorded videos function differently. Like a Direct version wouldn't have people walking on and off stage, instead of EA's speech you'd just see FIFA's presence in the sizzle reel, etc.
@Grumblevolcano Also, as a ray of light, once the Direct as aired, people will be able to talk about their games and their will be much more news in general
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Yeah I don't see much time being devoted to Switch 1 games. Maybe 5 minutes AT MOST for any non-cross gen games. And I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see absolutely no non-cross gen games here. There will surely be more Switch 1 games, but probably little to none on April 2nd.
I don't think Nintendo is going to do many "cross-gen" games as people think personally. They understand the fact that people buy consoles specifically for exclusive experiences that are made for said consoles. Outside of the games that were promised to come to Switch 1, I doubt they'll introduce games specifically for the original Switch- with most of the heavy hitters being exclusive to Switch 2. I don't think we'll see the next Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, or Gen 10 of Pokemon on Switch 1 alongside a Switch 2 release.
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@VoidofLight I do think the big new unannounced games will be Switch 2 exclusive, I just don't think new games will be as frequent this time with remasters/remakes and 3rd party support playing a bigger role compared to Switch in 2017.
Historically Nintendo has only ever done cross-gen releases for one reason: When they had already promised a title for one system before the game got delayed. I can't think of any other instance where Nintendo deliberately released something for their previous system. And it's not like the incentive of a huge install base wouldn't have been there with Wii or DS. But Nintendo know that the launch period of a new system is its most critical phase: If you don't build momentum and develop a userbase quickly, there's little you can do later. Those new flagship games have the job of getting users on board with the new console.
tl;dr: Nintendo won't suddenly start with cross-gen releases. Prime 4 yes, but only because they feel obliged to keep their promises. It's the Twilight Princess / BOTW situation.
@NintendoWife I guess it depends on what you mean by cross gen. Nintendo stated in their financial brief that they would still produce some Switch 1 games for a while; those aren't necessarily going to be enhanced for Switch 2 but they will almost certainly by advertised as 'Switch 1 and 2'. 3DS got Nintendo games for 3 years after Switch came out, but I can only think of a couple of the games in 2018 which came out jointly on Switch and 3DS. The fact that there is now only one console instead of 2 and that it has full back-compatibility really changes the conversation this time around. If Switch games or hardware had sold slowly, Nintendo had 3DS to lean on even though they instantly dropped Wii U. In this case, they have Switch 1 to lean on and it just happens to be back compatible.
As has already been said in this thread, I doubt the future Switch 1 games will be particularly big; I assume all future big hitters will be Switch 2 exclusive. Also it wouldn't surprise me if April 2nd was only Switch 2 and small cross-gen games were saved for 'normal' general directs since those will also have many Switch 1 third party/indie games.
@FishyS That Nintendo will still support Switch 1 with games for a while is a given, they've always done that, like you said. Since they've confirmed full BC between these two console generations, those S1 games will all be playable on S2.
'Cross-gen' to me only means: A new game that is simultaneously released for both the old and new console, and thus held back by the outgoing system's capacity, at least historically that's how it was handled by Nintendo. See Twilight Princess or BOTW. Nintendo could of course go a different route this time around and make two different versions... but I stick to the point that they need to drive people to the new system, and that only works with exclusivity.
@NintendoWife Fair. I agree they won't hold back new games to try to fit them on Switch 1 except conceivably Metroid Prime 4 and Pokemon Legends which just happen to land during the transition. I am curious if they will go the other direction though; will new games which naturally fit on Switch 1 (e.g. a future Nintendo World Championship: snes edition) get some little exclusive feature if you run it on Switch 2 as a way to advertise Switch 2?
@FishyS Yeah that's a good question. And a bit of a complex one too...
Could they implement some general mechanism that enhances S1 games across the board - which can by definition not mean artistic enhancements, only technical stuff like framerate and resolution? Somehow I feel that's more of a Playstation / Xbox / PC thinking, where people actually fiddle with these kinds of settings. Don't think Nintendo will do that.
So it's rather going to be a manual approach for selected titles - possibly for the few cross-gen titles, actually. For Metroid Prime 4 it would make a whole lot of sense. You'd satisfy the S1 base, at the same time show off the superior graphics of the new console.
Not counting on it though. Nintendo likes keeping it straightforward, one version, no settings.
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