Topic: Next Nintendo Direct?

@Grumblevolcano

Yeah, makes sense.

If they say from the start the currently announced games ( Peach, thousand year door) will run equally well on both consoles, I doubt it would have too much effect on sales. One way or another, there will be games after the announcement but before the new hardware is sold. That said, I am 50/50 on a hardware announcement in Feb/Mar versus summer. Clearly not this year though.

@FishyS Get Christmas out of the way and all bets are off. There is a good reason why we won't see an announcement in 2023 (protect holiday console and game sales) but from January? IMO there is no strong logic for any time frame between 1st January and the 30th June.

If it's releasing in time for Christmas 2024 then surely October is the latest we could possible see a launch? And if you assume a minimum of a 4 month window (which may not be enough for a full marketing campaign) then an E3 announcement must be the absolute latest we could see an announcement?

@FishyS TTYD and LM2 are old games meanwhile Princess Peach Showtime is a new game. Nintendo seems to value new games a lot more than old games so that's why Princess Peach Showtime would be the key game to look at regarding timings.

@MarioBrickLayer

Retailers need a run-up of at least a few months between announcement and a console's launch. Keep in mind the Switch was announced in October 2016 and released in March 2017. An announcement in June for release in Holiday 2024 makes most sense. Probably November 2024 as the Holiday shopping season traditionally begins the day after Halloween.

Idk much at all about business stuff, but isn't it a thing that they'd want to reveal it before the end of the fiscal year (March 31st) to boost their year end report or something? I do feel like a Spring reveal makes sense though. I feel like we'll have the real last switch direct in February, but it'll be pretty barren of new first party stuff or maybe even a mini. Then in spring we get the Switch 2 initial reveal trailer similar to OG switch's and then a massive presentation in June that details everything.

At the same time though, June feels a little too late to reveal something like the rumored 3D Mario launch title if it releases in October or November. I know the OG switch had its presentation just 2 months before launch, but those were far more desperate times for Nintendo and we already knew a ton about its big launch title (BOTW) at the time.

The only counter argument I have for that is do they release earlier in the year so many "core" Nintendo fans can get a console before a restock in time for the holidays for more casual gamers/parents buying for kids etc? I'm really not sure at this point.

I’m personally feeling a game-awards reveal of the codename, a late-march/April reveal,, a june presentation, and a November release

It just seems about right

@DiamondCore I mean Nintendo hasn’t announced anything at the game awards in years, but breaking that pattern suddenly to officially confirm something as big as their new console would be the most Nintendo thing ever lol.

Now that I think of it though I do think you’re right about a big reveal at the awards even if it’s not the new console. 2024 is seemingly gonna be a huge year for them and they’ll probably need more than just the usual 3 presentations a year to get all their info out, especially since they want to slow down on OG switch as little as possible. Maybe they’ll start the extra reveals this December and give us something like… idk… Prime 4?

@DiamondCore @Noble_Haltmann this year it’s being held early December so probably not wise to make any announcements, even a hint, of a new console. Don’t want people to return consoles they just bought or put potential buyers off buying one.

I don’t think Nintendo will do anything this year at TGA. Next year they’ll almost definitely announce something at it because they’ll have a new console on the market and they’re gonna want to keep it hyped and in the spotlight.

@dionysos283 no, this has nothing to do for Switch sucessor, it just licensing isseus, i expect Nintendo to anounce Switch sucessor in summer(june/july) for fall/holiday launch(septembre/octobre)

@Noble_Haltmann Prime 2-4 feels the most likely if anything for the Game Awards. Judging by reviews, it looks like in terms of Game Awards nominees we'd be seeing a repeat of 2017 (BotW + Mario Odyssey followed up with TotK + Mario Wonder). Nintendo's biggest Game Awards presence was 2017 in terms of announcements, there was BotW Champions Ballad DLC shadow drop and the announcement of Bayonetta 1-3 for Switch (1+2 bundle in February 2018, 3 in development) so that could be followed up with Prime 2+3 bundle and a first footage reveal of Prime 4.

It wouldn't work particularly well if Prime 4 is crossgen but if it instead turned out to be a Spring 2024 Switch game (April/May is empty currently), that could work very well.

@Grumblevolcano Yeah, I'm really torn about what they'll do with Prime 4 as well. As stunning as it would look with new gen graphics, I feel like the development restart was way too soon for it to be made specifically for the new console,. Especially since Retro is studios involved and probably would have needed to have a dev kit way back in early 2019. If it is an OG switch title though it would have to release in Summer of next year in order to have breathing room before the new console launch in Fall. If that's the case then they would definitely have to announce it at the game awards, which I don't think is too likely now that I realize there have been zero first party, non-smash announcements since 2017. Fingers crossed though!

@Noble_Haltmann @FragRed @Grumblevolcano Well, a reveal of the codename at the game awards does seem like something not out of the realm of possibiilty, I doubt people will return switch hardware for just basic confirmation that the next console is in the works (its quite obvious as of now)

I think what’ll happen is they might reveal a teaser/trailer for Metroid Prime 4 finally, and in the end card of the trailer, it’ll show a release window and “Coming to Nintendo Switch and Nintendo (codename for Switch 2)”, then briefly acknowledging the codename if anything

@Noble_Haltmann Game Awards last year had Bayonetta Origins and Fire Emblem Engage Expansion Pass so there's still a sense of giving Geoff Keighley announcements that fit the show. There was no TotK presence but then again that game would've stole the attention away from everything else.

@Grumblevolcano Ohhhh wow I completely forgot they revealed those last year, thanks for the catch! I could definitely see them going a bit bigger once again and showing some Metroid this year then. Seems like they always show less kid-oriented games at the awards to cater to the audience, so Metroid would fit right in. My guess would be Prime 2 and 3 confirmed followed by another vague re-confirmation of 4 with a 2024 release window.

I wonder if there'll be an Indie World later this year. The typical setup used to be March/April, August and December but things changed last year:

• 2022 - May and November
• 2023 (so far) - April

@Grumblevolcano maybe in novembre/dezembre we gonna have a indie World Showcase,

@Grumblevolcano I don’t know if it’s just me but I’m finding the indie Directs to be less interesting in terms of what’s showcased with each one they do.

Indie games are usually the space where fresh new ideas in gameplay and design are presented.

The problem is that roguelites, metroidvanias, and farm-sims are all the rage at the moment.

Every publisher wants their own Hades, Terraria, and / or Stardew Valley.