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Socar

Now I wonder.....How many downloads can this game make?

I mean, FE isn't really a big seller for Nintendo because its a series that can only reach a million units. Its not capable of selling 5 million and all and Its just as notable as Metroid.

What if this game fails to get the million download that it needs? What if the game simply isn't good enough that the series will be cancelled?

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Socar wrote:

What if the game simply isn't good enough that the series will be cancelled?

You think that now, after the success of Awakening and Fates, the same games that made Nintendo consider Fire Emblem a major franchise, that they'll cancel the entire series over a mobile app?

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Socar wrote:

Now I wonder.....How many downloads can this game make?

I mean, FE isn't really a big seller for Nintendo because its a series that can only reach a million units. Its not capable of selling 5 million and all and Its just as notable as Metroid.

What if this game fails to get the million download that it needs? What if the game simply isn't good enough that the series will be cancelled?

A) not happening
B) advertising through Miitomo about their new app will probably get them a few downloads.
C) People might not own Nintendo systems but be interested in the series, now they can check it out. I think Fire Emblem Mobile downloads will be impressive.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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DarthNocturnal

Anything has the potential to be a gold mine if given enough exposure and advertising. If they've managed to catch the attention of 10 million people with an app that only makes use of their avatar system, they can get the attention with other franchises.

Also, where did the million requirement come from?

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Socar

@DefHalan: You know....I can be more optimistic if Nintendo did something like Pokemon Picross where once you buy all the picrites, you don't have to pay anymore of them. Either that or that this should be done like DLC instead of in app item purchases.

I simply can't understand how Nintendo quickly claims FE is an important franchise when only two games have done well. Metroid also sold well so how is that not on the phone instead?

FE isn't a 5 million seller. Its just one and its only going to have 1 million downloads if at all it does it right? And how they do it right is really the problem here.

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DefHalan

@Socar: how is that a problem currently? We don't even know what it is to guess how they could do it wrong or right.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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DarthNocturnal

I think more then two games have done well... you're forgetting everything Japan-exclusive. And I think the GBA titles did (for the time) quite well, even outside of Japan.

As for why Metroid is still mostly in hiatus... Other M.

And really, you're too hung up on numbers. Just wait and see what happens.

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jump

Socar wrote:

Now I wonder.....How many downloads can this game make?

I mean, FE isn't really a big seller for Nintendo because its a series that can only reach a million units. Its not capable of selling 5 million and all and Its just as notable as Metroid.

What if this game fails to get the million download that it needs? What if the game simply isn't good enough that the series will be cancelled?

Good point cancel Fire Emblem, Metroid and Nintendo in general just to be safe.

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Therad

Socar wrote:

@DefHalan: You know....I can be more optimistic if Nintendo did something like Pokemon Picross where once you buy all the picrites, you don't have to pay anymore of them. Either that or that this should be done like DLC instead of in app item purchases.

We still don't know their business model for FE. For all we know it might be a small training campaign for free, and then selling new campaigns for $10 each. How about giving them the benefit of the doubt instead of building straw mans you can attack? You can always come back and rant when we know their business model.

Socar wrote:

I simply can't understand how Nintendo quickly claims FE is an important franchise when only two games have done well. Metroid also sold well so how is that not on the phone instead?

Because FE can easily be converted to the control scheme of a smartphone. It is basically click on unit, move unit, click on unit to attack. While platforming has never worked on phones thanks to their lack of buttons. Or do you think people would be happy with a metroid endless runner?

Socar wrote:

FE isn't a 5 million seller. Its just one and its only going to have 1 million downloads if at all it does it right? And how they do it right is really the problem here.

So why not test to see if their generic fantasy themed game can do better on smartphones? If it does, great. If it doesn't, they can always fall back to portables where they know how much sales they have. It is quite risk free.

Personally, I am glad they brought FE to smartphones. I will probably not buy fates when it comes to europe, since I don't have any interest in portables anymore. But I do have a smartphone, and having more games in my favorite genre on it would be great.

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Sleepingmudkip

I think this game is probably going to have the visuals of Shadow Dragon. Have a shallow linear story with randomly generated maps that offers easy medium(30-45 minute) burst of excitement. It would entice anyone who wants more to go out and buy the console versions...

Or they might just have a CCG like other people said which I actually want more

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DarthNocturnal

Emblemstone? But I wanted Smashstone.

I'm up for a good TCG. I have YGO Duel Generations (which, admittedly, needs improvements) and Pokemon TCGO (which should serve as a template for the former's improvements) on my tablet. I haven't looked into Cipher much, but I'd be game.

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DefHalan

People are joining my CCG bandwagon...

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Socar

You know what's so darn funny? The fact that TRPG games are so niche and that only appeals to the hardcore audience. Now all of a sudden, it makes sense for FE to go mobile no matter how niche the series is overall.

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DefHalan

Socar wrote:

You know what's so darn funny? The fact that TRPG games are so niche and that only appeals to the hardcore audience. Now all of a sudden, it makes sense for FE to go mobile no matter how niche the series is overall.

The fact it is niche isn't what makes it make sense to put it on mobile.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Therad

Socar wrote:

You know what's so darn funny? The fact that TRPG games are so niche and that only appeals to the hardcore audience. Now all of a sudden, it makes sense for FE to go mobile no matter how niche the series is overall.

But it make sense. Turn based tactical games have a big following on PC. Do you think it is more likely they own a smart phone or a 3ds?

Just because you got burned by final fantasy tactics, doesn't mean Nintendo will do the same mistakes. Instead of ranting, can't you try and think how they could succeed instead?

Therad

Octane

@Socar: It makes sense though. Think about it, even if it only reaches a million downloads, microtransactions alone would be enough reason to keep the series mobile exclusive, maybe exclusive to iOS. It would be more profitable and they would never have to bother with releasing a new FE game on a handheld ever again. What if they make it exclusive to the most expensive iPhones? Here's a better idea, what if they check your bank account, see how much you are able to spend and make the game exclusive to only those people that have enough money to keep the franchise going? It will be better for all of us that way.

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Socar

@Octane: So what you're saying is that FE be better suited for mobile gaming and should never be in the dedicated game systems?

Also, whatever you just mentioned is only making the game sound worse than the actual game experience. Nintendo should not check on you and decide if you're able to afford the entire game or not.

The opposite will happen and it won't make a dime.

Add that and also add the point that this game will be region locked like Miitomo. Obviously it won't do well as what Nintendo hopes it should do.

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GrizzlyArctos

They should only make one copy of the next Fire Emblem and sell it to the highest bidder. People have to prove they're worthy of it.

Throw in cosmetic dlc for each character priced at a few million each and Nintendo would be laughing.

Oh, and microtransactions. Lots of them. Each move costs money.

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Octane

@Socar: It's still worth a try. If that doesn't work, it may be better to cancel the franchise.

Octane

Shinion

We're still at a 'Cancel Fire Emblem' stage, less than a week after multiple facts Nintendo published showcased it is bigger than it's ever been?
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OK what am I missing here?

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