Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

I think we’ve been there since at least the Wii era. Most normal people have no idea what fps or p stand for, and power has never determined which console sells the best. Unless they find something truly revolutionary that the next console can do but the Switch can’t, there’s no need to ever make a new console.

While I've no interest in upgrading to next-gen tech, I will admit, the current gen hardware is a much better value for what you're paying than PS4/Xbone were. I built a modest mid-range PC in 2015 that frankly lapped everything that released that gen. In fact, I'm still running with my video card for that build (updated my CPU/mobo/RAM and installed an SSD, though), and it's still doing a shockingly serviceable job at 1080p.

@Fizza Normal from a nintendo view point. Now if you weren't a nintendo fan, it would look very, very odd.

I think you'd find it'd cost more to build a PC comparable to the current consoles, @Pizzamorg .... Ray-tracing requires graphics cards costing hundreds for a start Now, I'm not too bothered about that myself & am happy to play in just HD but I still spent a fair bit more on my PC than either a Series X or PS5 costs

Yeah, that is literally what I said. It won't cost you hundreds more if you know what you are doing, IE you can build it yourself and source your parts, but it certainly will cost more. This is the point I was making.

During the Xbone/PS4 generation or the generation before that, even - apparently not at launch (but my memory says otherwise) but let us say mid cycle, these consoles from a performance perspective had been well and truly left behind and a budget PC may cost more, but would well and truly run laps around these consoles and not even break a sweat.

Now you can pay 500 quid for basically a mid range PC in the PS5/Series X, you would have to pay significantly more to outperform them on PC and the returns would ultimately be minor and diminishing returns. Things like Raytracing are currently super primitive in their implementation and for even the top one percent of PCs, the performance cost is simply not justified.

But yeah, 4K 60 fps on consoles is a complete game changer. I don't remember another time like this in the last couple of console generations. When you can throw a game on a console and have a more than comparable experience compared to what you can have on PC. I think the value prospect of a console has never been higher. This is the point I was making. The value proposition of the PS5/Series X is just insane.

Yeah, you just seemed to be underselling them, @Pizzamorg .... Still plenty to like about PCs for those who prefer those & various things to offset the costs, of course

Underselling what, consoles? I dunno how you could take that away from my posts as I was quite literally arguing the complete opposite

Isn't what showcases the need for new hardware the situation where games (especially 1st party) run rough on the current hardware?

Switch is pushing it though I'd prefer the odd rough performance over new hardware resulting in Nintendo 1st party games on that system heavily delving into the bad habits PS4/XB1/PS5/Series X|S are known for like battle passes, microtransaction shops, etc.

Microsoft has being doing that kind of stuff since 2015 but Sony plans to go all in on it over the next 4 years (10 live service games) and likely beyond.

Ah, well, all cleared up now, @Pizzamorg .... Is your avatar from Wolf Among Us or something, btw?

I have no idea how to build a PC, and no money for parts, so I just go with consoles primarily, if there's a game my PC can't run.

Yeah, that's certainly a big advantage for a lot of people, @VoidofLight .... I'm certainly no expert, so if it wasn't for PC Specialist doing that, I'd never have got a PC with the insane prices for good pre-built ones

8k is pointless. The human eye can’t even tell the difference between that and 4K. unless you have your face inches from the tv. It is just a way to jack up the price of consoles with a useless feature. But people will not care because it sounds like such a big leap.

Ultra realistic graphics are just plain dumb for me.
It just really irritating my eyes.
I would rather playing cartoonish games over than ultra realistic graphic games.

@blindsquarel I can notice a massive difference between 4K and 1080p, without having to force my face up to a monitor or TV screen.

@VoidofLight
Good thing I was talking about 8k not 1080p

@blindsquarel Oh, I misread. I thought you were saying the Human eye can't tell the difference between 4K and other resolutions. Sorry.

@Savage_Joe The triggers count I think, but idk if I would really count them as much of a console gimmick given its not something every game uses even tho they could.

No dramas and yeah, from the reveal for the sequel. The first one is one of my most favourite games ever.

That's sometime next year, right, @Pizzamorg ....? I'll certainly want to get that when it is available!

I believe they said it should be coming 2023, but gave no date, so it may be pushed back. I think they said they were doing things differently this time, IE releasing it as episodes still but making sure every episode, so the entire thing, was finished, polished and tested before the episodes were pushed out.

While this take is on the extreme side, I will say in a general sense that art design will always trump for realism for me. I am personally not a huge fan of pixel art games, but man can I appreciate them when done well. Whereas you look at in contrast like the sea of military shooters which from a pure fidelity point there is no comparison, but all those games look the same to me and they are all really boring looking. Photo realistic maybe, but also so flat and muted. The fidelity basically means nothing there, to me.