Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

See? I'm confused already 😵 literally.

Let me fix that for you

Literally EVERY Mario Party game is awful!

Is it popular for a fan of something to hate the fans of something? Like if I'm a fan of animal crossing, is it unpopular or popular for me to despise it's modern fanbase?

@VoidofLight eh, it's not strongly either i think. Millions of people play that game, you don't hate all of them. Just the most vocal perhaps. Fandoms in general are pretty obnoxious. It's either one big circle-jerk or pitchfork gathering (literally, of course).

@Losermagnet The Animal Crossing Fanbase, at least for me, really just seems like a circle-jerk at this point. New Horizons split the fanbase in half effectively, and one side has people who defend the game and tell you that the games aren't for you anymore if you don't like it, while the other is full of people who are disgruntled because the game feels empty in comparison to previous titles. I'm just kind of tired of people thinking the disgruntled side has no right to their opinions.

@YusseiWarrior3000 Yup, I really dislike such party games

@VoidofLight that sounds like elitism/hipster rubbish where you think you're better than other fans. I liked that band before they were cool and they don't appreciate them the same way I do, everyone watches that anime as they are just casual anime fans unlike me, I hate those Marvel movies now as they aren't for real superhero comics fans anymore, I'm a true Man City who supported them before the Abu Dhabi money etc.

With the exception of dark fruits bands where I hate those gigs as the fans are silly buggers, I don't really hate fans of the things I like as it means more people like the same stuff as me.

@VoidofLight yeah forum discourse basically amounts to "who agrees with me?". It makes for pretty dull conversations. Fwiw, I thought New Horizons was fine but I didnt care for the focus on crafting. Got boring quick.

@jump Eh, I mostly dislike the fanbase due to how divided it's become, and how one side is trying to tell the other side that their opinions on the matter mean nothing.

@jump you're gonna have to explain dark fruits bands to me. I googled it and now im just more unsure.

I mean... speaking from a semi-disgruntled perspective myself... isn't that kinda true? At least for future games? After how massively successful it was, I can't imagine future entries won't be modeled closely after New Horizons. The series has progressively become less about social simulation gameplay and more about customization.

I'd probably say the same thing to those Zelda fans who are perpetually grumpy that BotW altered the genre of the series. It's not that they don't have a right to their opinions, but if someone really just detests the way a series is changing, it's probably better to move on to things they do like rather than constantly dumping on new games because they aren't like the older ones. This is exactly the behavior that irritates me about many of the people in the Paper Mario community.

obviously yes

anyone who has been in a major fandom for long enough can absolutely attest to how awful some fans can be and how miserable discussion about it can become

I'm not sure how much I agree considering how long its taken for there to be an actual 2nd BOTW style game (even the prequel game doesn't play like BOTW). It seems pretty inevitable that classic style Zelda shall continue in some form. I'm sympathetic to people who couldn't get into BOTW, but not liking BOTW is not a real deal breaker for the series as far as I'm concerned.

@Losermagnet it’s more of a British thing. Dark fruits is a specific type of music fan named after them drinking berry or strawberry cider. They are into indie rock bands like Oasis, Richard Ashcroft, Kasabian etc and basically there’s a casual music fan element to those crowds who don’t know proper gig etiquette like you shouldn’t be peeing into an empty cup and throwing into the crowd or you shouldn’t be getting into a fight as someone looked at them. They also don’t mix well at festivals with other crowds like the hippy ravers or metalheads. They are a nightmare in moshpits as they go in full fury whilst I remember going to punk and rock pits as a kid and would have the band preach about looking after each other in the pit which still sticks into my mind whilst indie bands never really do that so they don’t have it engraved into them.

@VoidofLight But you do that all the time in the Direct and rumours thread though ;p

@VoidofLight not to pile on, but it does sound like you're trying to talk to people who like playing Animal Crossing about how you don't. It's kind of a mis-match.

@jump got it 👍 i'll be on the look out at the next Radiohead concert I go to (i'm kidding - i cant stand Radiohead).

It seems very common. When it comes to AC, the modern fanbase probably hates all them old timers trying to gatekeep their fandom. Fandom communities are horrible. Best to just not engage.

@kkslider5552000 Zelda games usually take a long time to make. Anyway, considering how well BotW sold and how deeply it resonated with people worldwide, I'd be shocked to see mainline 3D Zelda go back to the older formula any time in the next decade or so. Although I agree they'll continue the 'old style' via remasters.

That's not enough for a lot of the people who love traditional 3D Zelda and see BotW-style games as inferior Assassin's Creed-likes.

@Losermagnet you would cause outrage calling Radiohead a dark fruits band in the UK, they are too arty/pretentious (they are abit of both imo) to be in the same category. That would be like calling Ministry a nu-metal band like Limp Bizkit or Iggy Pop a pop-punk band like Blink 182.

I disagree but I see your point.

Oh, now THAT'S a hot take! I see you're point if you don't enjoy pissing off your friends and family.

I do.

Does that make me a bad person?

@VoidofLight Every fanbase has at least some trash.

@VoidofLight
That's because you are still stuck in Old Animal Crossing idea and refuse to embrace the new style from ACNH. There are some improvement in QoL but you refuse to adapt with new approach.

Villagers now will never moving out until you ask them to move out, but you don't like to have a choice to determine their fate and call it a hostage.

Villagers talk with less variation dialogues, you called it boring and as matter of fact the other games (non Animal Crossing) also have repetitive dialogues and peoples didn't complain about that but you. It was not something hurt you for thr villagers to talk with less variations. They are not real living creatures, they will not directly talk to you with constant different dialogues.

You said there was nothing to do in ACNH, but i said it was wrong. Even before the update 2.0.0, there are some things you can do even in different circumstances such as collecting DIY recipes, catching sea creatures / fishes / bugs, exploiting items by time travel, etc. ACNH is not an old style Animal Crossing anymore so try to adapt with new approach.

I don't disagree, but I'm not sure how many people only love mainline 3D Zeldas that also don't want BOTW style games.