Topic: The Chit-Chat Thread

@ThanosReXXX Yeah, I know that feeling. I'll occasionally run into the problem where I'm low for much of the day and then finally really wake up and want to do stuff like a couple hours before I really need to go to bed...

@Heavyarms55 yep, sounds like that's what it is. "Deferred Sleep Cycle" or "delayed sleep cycle". If you really wanted a diagnosis, you can do that, but it doesn't get you anything other than the ability to say "i have a condition!". And i think it's silly to call such things conditions or disorders.... It's literally your, and many other people's, biology. Ironically it should be a worse problem in an agrarian society where the solar cycle really does define the working hours. It's sad that our anti nature society still emulates farming schedules.

Well, the world of Fallout has "society", and the reign of terror was a society, so anything counts I guess? Like a real world game of Red vs. Blue. Speaking of:

Oh, ignore @redd214 , he's ok. He's not rolling his eyes at science, he's just antagonizing me because I'm the one saying it. Right reddo? Reddie? Reddiwhip?

@Heavyarms55 Ironically the reason I even started drinking coffee and hot tea wasn't related to drowsiness. It was to help warm me up during the winter. I freeze easily that time of year and found that warm liquids help out. Many of my coworkers are warm-natured, so the thermostat isn't always set to warmer temps I can stand lol. I actually bought a heated blanket to use at work!

I normally sleep pretty well these days, though the last week or so has been iffy due to all that's going on both in my personal life and nationally. It didn't help that I had probably one of the worst dreams in recent memory last night. Though in retrospect, it would probably make an interesting movie.... :thinking_face: I legit have no idea where it came from.

@ThanosReXXX That's beyond me. Plus the fact that you have to check in online every so often in order to not lose access to those games IIRC. I know it's a large amount of time to where those even in the most remote of places could drive to somewhere with functional public internet access, but the fact that it even has to happen at all is a head scratcher.

I think I've mentioned this before, but the biggest pet peeve for me with the service is that they're technically holding the only legal means to back up your games behind a paywall. Save tampering aside, I'm sure most like yours truly would love to just have a physical SD card backup sitting around just in case the one in the Switch decides to kick the bucket.

@NEStalgia I don't know that I'd go so far as to call society "anti-nature". I'd say society is more apathetic toward nature than opposed to it. We aren't destroying the environment out of maliciousness, rather out of simply not caring.

Aside from those handful or moronic right wingers who deliberately modify their cars and trucks - removing devices designed to reduce emissions and going so far as to modify their engines to burn dirty on purpose. Those people are malicious, but also a small idiotic minority.

@Tyranexx I used to drink hot chocolate when I was a kid to warm up, it absolutely helps to drink hot drinks in winter.

Dreams can be weird, no doubt. I can only figure out a tiny fraction of where mine come from. I've also had night terrors - those are just awful, doubly so when you have a roommate because first you wake up screaming and don't know why, then you're embarrassed because you woke up probably half the dorm hallway... #baduniversitymemories Thankfully I don't get those often. I did have a pretty traditional nightmare the other night, I was in bed and there was a man standing outside my door-wall coming to kill me and I could barely move. It took everything I had just to groan and raise an arm a few inches. Woke up in cold sweat from that one.

Some around here definitely like modifying vehicles. Some neat/interesting car/truck designs have come out of that.. Conversely, this is sometimes (though not always) offset by noise and air pollution. I don't mind if the mechanically inclined perform their hobby, but I absolutely hate really loud noise and, when driving, put my vents on circulate if I see a vehicle blowing smoke. This isn't always intentional (like with farm machinery), but most smoke from said machinery (ignoring older models) also isn't really dark either.

@Heavyarms55 Our Keurig machine at work has hot chocolate canisters. I don't abuse them too often due to what's in it, but they're an occasional treat during the winter.

To my knowledge I've never had night terrors, but I did sleepwalk every now and again as a kid. Haven't done that in years to my knowledge, though I live alone. I don't tend to move around much in my sleep.

Last night was definitely a traditional nightmare. Most of my dreams tend to just be weird, mundane, or awesome. While I don't recall every single detail of it, it involved some shapeshifting thing that a special investigation unit was tracing. Basically, this thing would disguise itself as a random, non-living house object (coat hanger, button, key, etc.), lay low for awhile, and then attack unsuspecting victims in that shape. It created a long, gradual string of "murder houses" this way. The worst part is if a person or family grew wise that something wasn't quite right and tried to move, it would hitch a ride as an innocuous object. This thing never revealed a "true" shape in my dream; it would just instantly change into its next unsuspecting form.

No idea where the concept came from. The best I can figure is my brain mashed up the concepts of yokai and Weeping Angels.

now see, id drink that, i dont hate pineapple, but on pizza is a nope for me.
pina colada is good.
if anyone links that stupid i like pina colada song i will body slam you

@Tyranexx Oh I wasn't talking about hobbyists just having fun. I've encountered people who deliberately and proudly modify their vehicles to be more polluting specifically to "own the libs" or whatever. My hometown has some strange people.

I might have had to Google "Keurig" but what do you mean about what's in them? Are the machines at your work dirty or something? They're just coffee pots right?

You'd know if you'd had a night terror. You don't remember anything, but you wake up feeling extreme terror, not fear but the kind of terror one feels when their life is in imminent danger or something, like falling from a bridge or staring into the headlights of a rapidly approaching car. I don't have them often, but when I have I wake up screaming bloody murder. And I never have any idea why. Once or twice it left me with a sense of unreality for several minutes until I calmed down and presumably my heart-rate returned to normal levels...

I don't think I've ever slept walked - but my dad did that and occasionally spoke in his sleep. It was kind of funny honestly. One time he slept walked from his room, downstairs, turned all the lights on and only woke up as he was turning on the radio. lol

@Heavyarms55 What helps sometimes, is to take a hot shower, right before going to bed. On the occasions that it works, it makes me drowsy enough to allow me to drift off to dreamland.

On the topic of night terrors: never had those, I think (going by what you described). I've had plenty of nightmares though, and when I was younger, I frequently experienced the falling sensation, which also isn't very pleasant to wake up to. According to scientific research, it's all due to the body going from its sleep paralysis state, to a normal state, which (when you wake up a little too early, right at the end of that cycle) induces a "falling sensation" in the brain, and makes it feel like you literally "land" in your bed as you wake up.

In case you didn't know and/or have never heard of it, sleep paralysis is a natural/biological phenomenon that occurs in a state of deep sleep, and it is induced to see to it that the body doesn't hurt itself while you're sleeping, so it's kind of a protective state. But due to neurological/cerebral irregularities, people sometimes wake up during and/or right after this phenomenon occurs, creating either the illusion of being paralyzed, or the sensation of falling.

Back in the dark ages of science, this misunderstood phenomenon, or rather: biological process, was explained away as a devil/incubus "sitting" on your chest, which was the supposed reason that you couldn't move:


@NEStalgia Are you SURE that's what Redd's doing? I've seen the "whatever" reactions before in other threads. You might be right, but to me, if someone does that, it does indeed come across as either waving away comments, rolling eyes, ridiculing or in general as not knowing what actually sensible reply to give (or simply not wanting to give one), and then just hitting people with a "whatever" or "okay, buddy, if you say so".

Either way, I definitely don't like it. In some instances, I even feel like it's highly impolite as well, especially when the other party takes the time or puts in the effort to write an elaborate and/or well-thought out comment, and then basically getting slammed with the textual equivalent of someone turning their backs in total disinterest. These kinds of things sometimes REALLY make me feel like I'm getting too old for some of this stuff...

@Tyranexx Yeah, it is very weird indeed. Back when they announced their partnership with DeNA, one of the biggest online gaming providers in the world, I thought that their service was going to seriously rival Microsoft's, with not only a modernized version of the eShop and Virtual Console, but also a solid online gaming experience. What we got instead was an okayish eShop, a lousy replacement for the Virtual Console and a highly convoluted online gaming system, with the most ridiculous and needlessly complicated way of realizing voice chat, by way of adding a smart phone.

To this day, I can't help but wonder what the hell they were thinking...

@BruceCM Oh, dear. Someone's applying for a body slam...

My sleep paralysis demon is named Fuzzy.

In other news, Colors! Live is officially the first ever Kickstarter I back. It's an interesting mix of feeling like I've wasted money, and feeling like I contributed to something.

Meanwhile I'll be here, hoping I get my switch sonar pen sometime this year.

Wow, you guys are talking about the same thing you were when I left two days ago. You should start your own sleep thread.

@Heavyarms55 It's a mix. I'm not really "in line" with the "climate change" itinerary. I see it as a mix of truths, half truths, agendas, real science, pseudo-science, purchased science, political goals in need of excuses, and a frustrated environmentalist movement that got upset with the fact that nobody seemed to care at all, and decided to hijack all of the above to put urgency timers on their own agendas......once Vatican gets involved in international politics, you know you're back in the 3rd century.

There's truths buried in lies, tied up in monetization and social engineering schemes to the point that it's impossible to listen to any of it and assume any of it isn't a lie even when it's parts that are true. But even beyond that we ended up in an accidental experiment that kind of pigeon holes the whole agenda on that one anyway. We shut down nearly the entire planet for months......and the net result was simply a roll-back to where we were at full capacity 10 years ago which was supposedly already "dire", and this mass halt was effectively "insufficient." So to achieve the "necessary" goals to avert the claimed catastrophe we'd have to shut down substantially more of the world than has been shut down in 2020, permanently. I don't see that happening without a mass culling of 2/3 the worlds population. Then again, if everyone wants to herd immunity we might just achieve that goal. And even if they do it in the West by force, guile, and financial manipulation.....all that does is hasten the need to learn Mandarin. Before we all live undersea, I guess.

So, no I don't think ignoring that stuff is really anti-nature. But the environmental-climate-whateverists are right about some things. There is a genuine anti-nature streak. I've heard, endlessly, from land development types that undeveloped, wild land is "blight" and it could be so much improved by developing it. They literally see natural land as a blight that needs to be reconfigured to symmetrical human engineered hardscape to be pleasing. It's almost an OCD complex apparently for some human. If it's not human engineered, it's "unsafe" and "dangerous" and needs to be "fixed" by engineering it into synthetic materials and symmetric lines. That explains a lot about urbanization and development of the world (and ecosystem destruction and so on.) It's not just about wastefulness and plastic garbage from China. There's an active desire among aspects of society, to actively replace nature with non-nature to make it "better." And those tend to be the individuals rolling o ut how the world develops. Even on a small scale, home owners have spent 20 years ripping out every aspect of nature in their yards and replacing it with designed/planned/engineered landscaping in what, to me looks horrible, but apparently to everyone else, it's "better." There's a definite anti-nature streak to humans that seems associated with the need to have control over all things. And if it's not human designed, it's not human controlled...and they need to change that. Climate agendas aside....humans are indeed anti-nature, apparently.....by nature...

@ThanosReXXX Be honest, you were just looking for a reason to post nudity on NL, weren't you?

You're right on Redd's comments, but from past conversations, I've assumed he's just effectively ridiculing me personally (presumably playfully.) If it's not just me, then yeah, it's jerky. I just assumed since we seem to have opposite opinions more often than not over years, he's dismissively prodding "crazy NES" purposely.

@Eel Yeah, I also thought that was an interesting title. I've never backed anything, though. If I'm interested and if it's successful, I'll buy it to support the developers, but I'd hate to invest money into something that might not be released after all. But props to those that do, and who make projects successful.

I'd definitely like to get a hands-on with Colors!, though. If only to find out how good that sound-controlled stylus works.

@Link-Hero Erm... everybody with a normal sleep cycle goes through sleep paralysis. You just haven't fully noticed, because you've only ever woken up at the end of it, and as mentioned, that is what causes the falling sensation. It's basically when your body "un-clamps"/un-clenches from its rigid state, and the muscles relax again. The reason why you're not having those experiences now anymore, is more than likely because you're sleeping better or longer than you used to when you were younger, in which case you completely go through all the sleep stages/cycles without consciously noticing them. I also don't experience the falling sensation anymore, so perhaps it's more common in younger people.

@BabyYoshi12 You ain't seen nothing yet, dear new member. You should see some of our pizza or other food item-related discussions...

@NEStalgia Nah, unlike Anti, I'm not really into male nudity. And there was a FAR more nude picture which was the first search result that came up, but which I didn't post, because it was a full frontal of a woman lying on a bed with a demon on her belly, so I actually had to put in some effort to find a couple of pictures that wouldn't cross the line.

Then again: it's art, which, by its very nature and definition is completely exempt from any such stereotyping.

Did someone mention pizza?

Pineapple belongs on pizza.

@Link-Hero Another thing that probably factors in to the equation, is that we're far more energetic when we're younger, especially during puberty, what with all the raging hormones and all.

Nowadays, I can fall (and stay) asleep in or on almost anything. You can fire off the proverbial cannon right next to me, and all I'll probably do, is roll over onto my other side.

This is the kind of reckless behaviour that needs to be stopped.

A pizza with pineapples is not a pizza, it's a fruit cake.

@NEStalgia Said the fruitcake himself...