Topic: Rock Music Discussion

@skywake you just need to complain that is back when they use to make real music to really feel your age. Lol

As you’re the resident Aussie rock expert, do you know The Lazy Eyes and Vacations by any chance? They been added to All Points East festival I’m going to and I gave them a quick listen on Spotify. The Lazy Eyes are cool, I’m enjoying them but with Vacations I was shocked to see they have 8+ million listeners, is that bots or is there an album that helps them “click”? They also added Amyl & The Sniffers but I’ve been a fan of theirs of ages though.

@jump
Vacations I hadn't heard of TBH but The Lazy Eyes I have. Although I kinda feel like they just kinda blend into the over-abundance of psych-rock that seems to be everywhere here ATM. Tame Impala, Pond, King Gizzard and the dozen or so other bands and side projects in their orbit

Amyl & The Sniffers though, been fairly popular for a while. I mean, obviously not Tame Impala tier popular where everyone from Swifties to Bogans to Soccer Mums and Hip-Hop heads listen to them. But I'd say popular enough that anyone who is into Rock and hasn't been living under a rock for the last 5 years has them in a playlist. Probably like Pond tier popular. Popular enough that you wouldn't be shocked if they played it before the ad-break at the footy if it wasn't, you know, someone screaming "out comes my knifey"

@skywake Yeah, The Lazy Eyes aren’t gonna set the world on fire (but not every band needs/wants to) however I do like that Imaginary Girl song.

I’m really stumped by Vacations then. They have a lot more listeners than loads of major international acts like Arcade Fire, Haim, The National, The XX, London Grammar, Christine & The Queens etc yet seem bang average and even their fellow music loving countrymen don’t seem to know them. They must be on one of those rubbish Spotify playlists so people are playing them without listening to them.

In the UK Amyl & The Sniffers have easily eclipsed Pond in popularity, I think it’s their pub rock sensibilities which makes it easy to cross over with all British guitar music listeners. They seem to pop up at a lot of festivals I’m go to in higher positions than the last time I saw them. Good for them, the first time I saw them was basically at the back of a pub where I chatted with them for a bit afterwards and they seemed really nice.

I’m came across an article which has a price listing for loads and loads of bands you can book.

Ghost are shockingly cheap for an arena band. You can get the legendary Yardbirds for a song. You can book Black Sabbath (so they are technically still together?) but what’s the point since Ozzy will just cancel it. To book Avenged Sevenfold it is twice as much as Slipknot? How are The Steroephonics charging a million a show, it’s not the 00s anymore. Cradle Of Filth are only 3k, I’m tempted to get enough mates together to chip in to hire them for a private gig. You can book Spinal Tap for some reason. Lost Prophets are listed eww…

https://lambgoat.com/lists/5/how-much-it-costs-to-book-your-f...

Ooh! A new podcast recently launched called 2 Promoters 1 Pod. It's hosted Gav the guy that runs Damnation Festival and James who runs the ArcTanGent and 2000 Trees festivals where they discuss things like bands getting upset by font size on a poster, how Slayer took the bees wack reforming after breaking up 3 years later.

I book for a couple of smaller festivals and these prices are wildly out of line with reality. Clinic are listed for 45K - I booked them for 1K. Similarly, there's no way in hell anyone is paying Conan 20K. I know the article says that these are "fly in" prices, but I suspect that they're "fly ins that they really don't want to do". Like: how much would you charge to fly to Dubai to play a private show for an oil company?

On the flipside, I think you'll need to find an extra 0 for that private CoF set sadly.

Edit: it also think Lord Spikeheart (who's great, but is yet to release a solo album, and would probably draw about 200 people in London) would charge the same as King Crimson (who sold out 2 nights at the palladium (totaling around 4,500), with tickets starting at £80)

@ian_beale ooh, any festivals I’m likely to know?

That’s a shame about Cradle Of Filth, I had already partially planned it in my head with me eying a warehouse to host in the party at.

@jump not that likely, no. Anyway, I'm not gonna name 'em after I've shopped people on their fee arrangements. Highly unprofessional

And so the Prince of Darkness is with us no more. R.I.P. Ozzy Osbourne. This one is heartbreaking for me as a some who grew up listening to Ozzy. So many great songs both with Black Sabbath and on his own. Such a shock seeing the headline this morning of his passing. Thoughts go out to his family, friends and millions of fans.

@Tasuki
I never understood why people liked Metal until i heard his music. My phones alarm clock has crazy train on it. This one hurts me like when MJ died. That last concert ozzy did just two weeks ago, you could tell he was about to go and he knew it. He still had the strength to give us one last show though.

A friend of mine got me into Ozzy.

When we heard Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" in Rock n' Roll Racing, our minds were blown.

"Ozzy's in a Nintendo game!!!"

Hope it isn't the start of something. I dread seeing Jagger and McCartney like this...

I’m happy to see fans paying their respects to the Prince of Darkness. What a legend.
I’m grateful to say I saw him and Sabbath live about 10 years ago. Grew up with his music, and his passing has created a void for myself and so many many others that will be hard to fill.
Hell just got warmed up 🤘

Sabbath blew my mind as a kid. I used to dub their tunes off the radio using my boombox to put them on mixtapes. Now my eight year old son loves them. Nearly put him in tears when I broke the news to him yesterday. Thanks Ozzy. May every war pig receive their comeuppance.

My friends and I had the same reaction. We thought it was the coolest thing ever.

@bimmy-lee Ah mix tapes. Mine consisted of Ozzy as well in fact one of the last mix tapes I made was of Black Sabbath's Reunion they did in the late 90's I want to say, it was the live concert. I remember having the tape in my boombox just waiting for the local radio station to play a song from that album.

But yeah Ozzy was always a part of my mix tapes. Him along with Metallica, Megadeth, GNR, Slayer. I believe I still have a few laying around somewhere just no way of playing them.

@Tasuki - What’s up man, yeah, mixtapes were one of my favorite hobbies of my youth. I have a blank Maxell UR90 cassette in the shrink wrap and a dual tape deck on my home stereo. Gonna make my final masterpiece one day for my kids to enjoy. You certainly could have made a killer metal mix from the bands you listed there. I enjoy making playlists on Spotify, but I miss all the extra effort that went into mixtapes: dubbing off the catch tape, writing the liner notes, drawing something on the cover. So fun. Hope you’re good dude.

@bimmy-lee Haha yeah I had a few of them. I had one just purely Metallica that had a nice variety stuff from Kill Em All up to Reload which was the current album of the time and the one that I said before. Also had a few Classic Rock ones too stuff like Journey, Ted Nuget, Bob Segar, Kansas. It helped that I lived near a Radio Shack and a Kmart so I was always buying blank cassette tapes. I would always bring them along when I hung out with my friends cruising in their car popping in mix tapes to their tape players blasting hits like Crazy Train, For Whom The Bell Tolls, Peace Sells Who's buying. Sadly once CD became the format I couldn't do that anymore mainly cause I didnt have a computer with a CD burner. My other friend did and with Napster, the original one he made all our crusing tunes. I think the last tape I did was Metallica's S&M album. I remember waiting by the radio waiting for them to play One so I could get it. Then I got a few more S&M songs after that.

Those were the days.