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Rambler

There are some excellent kids programmes at the moment, just as there were always utter dross over the years.

The idea of that one has seen everything is, I think , a reductive argument as evidenced by a limited exposure to material.
Of course there are only some many stories - that was worked out 100s of years ago.
If one is watching a film / TV series just for the structure / story beats then is probably for the wrong reasons.
Blue Velvet is just a murder mystery, Alien is just a haunted house movie, The Shining is just a haunted house movie, etc etc

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jump

@Rambler I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that storyline played out in Eastenders more than once. I remember Pat Butcher killed God because the church was evil and soaps being soaps just recycled the same storylines so Nick Cotton killed God too. Then a few year later once they thought everyone has forgotten about it Kat Slater killed God as well, only that time it turned out she didn’t do it and it was actually Peggy Mitchell who killed God!

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Well, Nick Cotton could be the Prodigal Son, and Peggy Mitchell is definitely St Peter, although does that make the Queen Vic purgatory?
Dirty Den came back from the dead, but maybe all the Slaters are like a pantheon of polytheistic gods, ruling Albert Square for eternity.

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@jump
That's why it's called East Enders!!! All churches point east, and Peggy's ending them al!

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jump

@Rambler is that true about all churches point east?

One of my favourite music festivals is All Points East and that wording has now made me re-think it’s not called that because it’s in East London, but really it’s subtly a bible basher event!

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I was just going to write some vague fluff, but it seems that Wikipedia kind of agrees with me

All Points East is definitely something to do with the Book of Revelations. Or Genesis. Or that one about the letters.

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Jalex_64

Rambler wrote:

@jump
That's why it's called East Enders!!! All churches point east, and Peggy's ending them al!

Haha! Brilliant!

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jump

@Rambler Hmmm, now that you mention it when I saw Nick Cave there he did look like an off duty preacher. I'm gonna side with @VoidofLight now and agree with them about how evil church is and we all need to kill God.

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Like some sort of FPS featuring Nietzsche and Richard Dawkins?

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jump

@Rambler Off the top of my head there is Punch Out: Revelations where you play as Daniel Dennett and have to use the Wii Remotes to box God, then there is Genesis a tactical role-playing game where you must make you're false idol powerful enough to beat God (I normally play as Taylor Swift or the Marvel movies but when I watch people play it on Twitch they seem to be a random Youtube blogger), there is that Charles Darwin game which is part Pokemon part Mario Kart where you need to evolve the animal you're riding on so you're fast enough to beat God in a race and then there is Spotlight: The Game 2 where you play as a terrible looking 3D model of Mark Ruffalo from the movie but after battling the Catholic Church he now battles God herself.

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Is Spotlight: The Game 2 a bit like the film Good Will Hunting 2: Huntin' Time?

I really hope Mark Ruffalo has a sibling called George or Gina.

That Genesis game would be amazing

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Purgatorium

Tanookduke wrote:

It may just me , but it seems that a lot of the shows and movies that come out are too predictable for me to enjoy fully. When I still watch shows on cable TV, from disney channel, nickelodeon, or cartoon network, they seem to have very predictable and almost boring plots.
Character gets rich quick plot, seen it. Time machine episode, yawn. Main character gets jealous of another characters situation, I've seen that a thousand times before.

Despite being almost 20 years old, I feel like I've seen every almost every TV show and movie plot in the world ,word for word, and story beat by story beat. And when I see it appear again the urge to skip the episode and/ or movie will start to run through me.

I feel as if its because I've practically seen the last 50 years of video via netflix and YouTube video / series reviews. I feel as if I'm 50 in movie watching years as apposed to the actual years I've been alive!

Does anyone else have the same feeling?
(Note: I still like some shows and movies, spider man into the spiderverse, moon girl and devil dinosaur, back to the future, the mario movie. But it takes a show Being really good for me to really like it/ spend a significant amount of time watching it)

You should save this post and read it again in 10 - 20 years.

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jump

@Purgatorium Yeah it does feel very folly of the yoof where you don't know enough to know how actually little you know which you'll look back on one day and go I was such a silly billy.

It's always funny coming across kids saying stuff like "I've seen all of the Marvel films, even Captain Marvel, so I know a thing or two about real cinema" or "I listen to real punk rock like Yungblud and Neck Deep not corporate music" and you try not to cringe. Hopefully they're open to finding other things in the future so they realise how narrow a view they had.

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FishyS wrote:

Clearly the answer is to play video games rather than watch tv. 🤔

Or go outside. Or better yet, read some books. It's unbelievable that a 20-year-old already consumed so much media that they're bored.

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jump wrote:

@Purgatorium Yeah it does feel very folly of the yoof where you don't know enough to know how actually little you know which you'll look back on one day and go I was such a silly billy.
It's always funny coming across kids saying stuff like "I've seen all of the Marvel films, even Captain Marvel, so I know a thing or two about real cinema" or "I listen to real punk rock like Yungblud and Neck Deep not corporate music" and you try not to cringe. Hopefully they're open to finding other things in the future so they realise how narrow a view they had.

For sure, and I don't mean just to laugh at yourself, but to reflect, ya know? I read the OP and thought something just rang familiar about it. Not about media, specifically, but I know I felt similarly when I was younger.

I know some people think a story being predictable is a harsh criticism, but don't you ever watch something again? You know exactly who the characters are and how it's going to end. If you haven't, give it a shot.

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Rambler

Purgatorium wrote:

I know some people think a story being predictable is a harsh criticism, but don't you ever watch something again? You know exactly who the characters are and how it's going to end. If you haven't, give it a shot.

That's different to a predictable plotline. I know how the Maltese Falcon ends, I doubt that can be said to have a predictable plot.

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Purgatorium

@Rambler I just don't get why people think predictability is a bad for a story. So while I understand that there is a difference between knowing an ending and predicting an ending, I don't know how they are functionally different. Maybe that distinction matters and is more easily conceived by others.

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Rambler

@Purgatorium
A predictable storyline can be indicative of a lack of imagination. However, yes, I totally see what you mean. You just know that they will go from hating each other to falling in love, but the ride to get there is very enjoyable. That involves good characterisation, dialogue and situations. Maybe the storyline isn't as boilerplate as the plot suggests?
Alien is just a monster in a haunted house, but is about gender-based violence, so the plot is as predictable as it comes but the narrative and scenes are quite special.

But the cliches of the one-last-job criminal, the near-retirement cop are so overused that they take you (or rather me) out of the story. They're tired and show a lack of imagination.

I've got to say, I found The Killer to be predictable and boring, which I dont think was the common consensus. The main thrust of the plot is taken from Branded to Kill, which is probably one of the most unpredictable gangster films ever made. Ghost Dog has a couple of nice homages to that film in it.
Edit: I think The Killer might lift some stuff from Ghost Dog as well?

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