Topic: Petit Computer

lol Nope! I'm extremely bad with music...

Petit Computer 3D? when is it coming out?

I'd play it!

@Zack56144 Thanks, that strengthens my resolve to get it done relatively soon.

Edit: Here's what it looks like so far

Im pretty sure Petitcom 3 will have MKII Support.

I'm back! Did I miss anything?
Sorry for off-topic post....

I finished my action RPG it is vary basic but pretty competitive and fun to play.
I cannot upload qr codes because i do not have a working computer...the same reason i don't use PTC utilities.
I will try to upload ASAP!

@Bluerobin2 here's a few:

SWITCH...CASE
ex.

SWITCH X

CASE 1 THEN SAY "X equals 1"

CASE 2 THEN SAY "X equals 2"

DEFAULT SAY "X is greater than 2"

If you're not familiar with SWITCH CASE, do some C++ programming research.
LINE x start,y start,x end,y end,colour
DOT x,y,colour
Here's just a few. Also when doing the ASK command, use LINPUT because it doesn't put the ? in there.

Looks cool! cant wait to play it =P

So, who's Brizobst? Anybody I know or do you just type random letters?

This is where I step in and say that I have never said randomous skill is below par. It's just that there are numerous bugs in his code. His coding skill is top notch, but programming is more than just coding. His design skill is lacking, and so is yours, swordx, if you think writing huge games is difficult. In fact, as simple as my style is, there aren't that many people who can do it. I can count the number of people who can do this in one hand. About 3-4 people, world-wide. I'm sure there are more, I just haven't seen them in action. You see Morphtorok does not think of his skill highly. I think Morphtorok is great. He's extremely talented, and understand that writing bug free code is not the end. Seamless design is the ultimate in computer programming skill.

Furthermore, if you would evaluate my skill by the size of my programs, then I will never measure up. I have consistently trim down my code so that data/code ratio becomes extremely high. The more skillful I am, the less the code. This is true everywhere. Coding is easy. Design is hard. Until you realize that, you are not there yet.

I think randomous experience here will prove very beneficial to his development as a computer programmer. He already have the technical skills. It is his design skills that is lacking. How do you know when his design skill is top notch? When his programs no longer have bugs. I have been programming for a long time, and sometimes, my technical skill is not up to par, especially when learning a new language. But my design skill has been great for a good long time, now. I hardly ever have any bug.

There are program development techniques that lets you minimize the number of bugs. I will not teach you here, since it's not Petit Computer specific, but it is very much possible to write a "self-debugging" programs.

SwordX, you have been very critical of me, even to the point of claiming that I cannot do this or that. I ask you to stop that. I have written a sizable bug-free program, in C, no less. So, I am much more experienced than you. You may take it as opportunity to learn what is possible, or you may stay in your limited view of computer programming skills, but AFAIK, it is you who is limited in programming skills, and people should ignore your negativity if they want to advance their skills.

After all, not everybody is like you. Not that many people are happy being unhappy, right?

Speaking about huge programs, I do have designs for RPG Maker. It will have sprite maker, monster editor, dungeon editor, map editor, and perhaps music editor as well. Is that big enough for you? It's not huge, though. I consider that medium-sized program.

Anyway, I never consider, or even ask the question, who is the top three? or five? or whatever? I just ask myself who among these people know what they're doing? That's my standard, and I try to help as many people as possible to get there. If there are 3 people, then there are 3. If there are twenty, then 20. Whatever the number is, I try to increase it as much as possible. To consider just the top 3, is to ignore qualified people, and hey, let's face it. Different people have different skills and talent. If you are so busy trying to reduce their contribution to a number, perhaps you should reconsider your position. Just saying.

@bluerobin2, @IAmAPerson
You are correct in that trying to strictly follow the language standard will cause extreme hardship. I have yet to see a language, except that Brain**** derivative that is on the competition, that is implementable without a parser. Even a simple language like LISP has parser. Just because I managed to do it without, doesn't mean that I strictly follow the standard. It's much easier to design your own language. Speaking of which ... I do have the beginning of such language design. I hesitate to implement it, because I don't believe people will use it much. There are other programs I like to do first, such as the forementioned RPG Maker.

@ramstrong I hope you know that I didn't mean anything bad when I mentioned you in that post; I was just using it to make a point. @swordx I wasn't blaming ramstrong for anything, I was just mentioning it in passing.

As for all the hubbub, I'd just like to say (as many smarter people than I have said before): Being overly defensive puts others on the offensive.

Thanks for complimenting my coding skill!

Sounds like bragging to me. In my opinion, from what I have seen, I think that @randomous has the most overall skill, followed by @Discostew, and then @Morphtorok.

I know you don't. I think you're a good person. It's swordx. Unfortunately, there are certain things that certain people do to hurt other people, but it's slight, so people would think, "He's just nit-picking." But in fact, there are certain "office politics" maneuvering where it's not a slight, it's a full blown attack. Not many people learn that dark skill, but I did. Unfortunately, that was because I had to, being on the receiving end of such attack. I left the workplace before it got too bad, and it did go bad, to the point the whole department got shutdown. So, I suppose you can say that I'm being "touchy" or "sensitive", but I do notice these things before other people do. For better or for worse.

@IAmAPerson
I'm just stating fact. How old do you think I am, anyway? And no, I don't think I'm a genius. If I am as smart as people say I am, I'd have learned what I know now ... ten years ago.

You are welcome to your opinion. Mine happens to differ.
It's Discostew. You don't see it, but he's done deep into the hardware. None of us even approach what he's accomplished.

@Ramstrong, I understand that you (and most of the people here) are much more skilled than I am. I never stated you couldn't make large programs (and by large, I mean with a lot of content...), I simply stated that your words, at the time of this writing, hold no merit. You clearly understand programming well, but bugs don't simply arise from a lack of understanding (although they can...), they arise from simple, mindless mistakes most of the time. You won't find them directly after creating them, as you're still in the same (or similar) mindset that produced them. Basically, my point was that your bug statements were too critical, and that he shouldn't listen to them.

Also, just so you know, rebuilding a program from scratch just because the code isn't good enough is no more helpful than doing something similar that could be done in that sam style. There's no point in erasing your work. Some developers (such as the team behind Zelda) release what they made during the learning phase so that the time doesn't feel wasted and they get a sense of accomplishment to drive them forward.

Just a reminder, I never once said I was good at programming (at least not seriously...). I'm very new to it. In fact, PTC is my first venture into the world of coding. If you that I'm confident in my abilities, then you are mistaken, and very much so. That Zelda-like game I'm making? Yeah. That originated as an English project because I wqnted to do something fun for a project, and my teacher was okay with it. I didn't think I'd be able to do it, and I was dreading a simple system of collision detection (which turned out to be very easy...). So what does that tell you?

As for rating PTC developers, users asked for the opinions of others, and I answered. And you can't say that telling someone he is a grea programmer and that he shouldn't listen to those who state that what he makes is buggy is a negative comment...

Brizobst-http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F

Errr I just want to point out that I don't dislike anybody, and I think you're all great. Except trolls, as you already know lol.

On the subject of Petit Computer, I don't think they'll be releasing the 3ds version any time soon, so I don't think any of you should drop your projects.

can we all just agree that we love petit computer

@Ramstrong perhaps you are being too defensive to the point where you perceive what others say as an attack too quickly. You're looking for underlying messages in my posts, and I assure you that none exist. If I wished to attack you, belittle you, or praise myself, I'd be VERY straightforward.

Well, there's that one time when he thought I was insulting him by being too lazy haha.

But please, this is not the place for this kind of discussion, I'm sorry for <indirectly> starting it.

@Morphtorok Nahh, you didn't start anything lol.

Just for the record, I think this guy is pretty dang amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdJBNkJ5jXI

He just goes around remaking old sega games... perfectly lol.

Sorry. That's exactly what that bad and evil person said. So, I can't take that statement at face value.

If you that I'm confident in my abilities,

Let's just end the conversation here. I said what I needed to say, and so did you.

Is that the bookstore dreams thing? That was a misunderstanding. ^_^;
You didn't start it. In fact, you've been very diplomatic about it. I wish I can behave more like you.