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Topic: Why Sticker Star fails and why Nintendo should stop making worse Paper Mario games

3dsplayer · 2014-07-09T05:40:55+00:00

some spoilers When I heard that 3ds was getting another Paper Mario game, I was pretty excited. Paper Mario for the n64 is still one of my favorite games, and I found The thousand year door to be good also, but in my opinion the original Paper Mario is still far superior then all of its predecessors. Paper Mario had charm, thousand year door had its own charm but still wasn't as good as the orignal Paper Mario, which was still ok because the game was still good overall. Then came the sequel on the nintendo wii, Super Paper Mario. At the time of its release, I didn't care much because I only had a gamecube and xbox. I did get super paper mario and beaten it, even though I like the rpg elements the original 2 had, this one was different and I was ok with it. Now they should never go back to the same idea of not having rpg and more platforming, they did it well here. During Ds days, I was really hoping they would remake the original Paper Mario to ds, but with added extras such as extra items, extra partners, enemies, longer story, ect. Like they did with super mario 64 ds. But then they made an announcement for Sticker Star, I was even more happy when I seen the trailers because I seen that it was back to rpg style, the battle scenes seemed a bit off though. I was a pretty nervous about that and was hoping Nintendo isn't still going down hill with this and make another worse Paper Mario game. After completing the game, I was pretty disappointed. The rpg style fighting in Sticker Star was completely different from the original 2, you collect stickers to in this one to fight, basically you only fight with items. An rpg with no default weapon, only items you pick up and find, that is Sticker Star. Though you will find a lot of stickers, your going to find the same 10 stickers most of the time? Mario's Hammer and Boot attacks weren't enough? Partners in the original 2 also offered a lot of so much variety it almost never got boring. Not only that, there isn't very many stickers, around 90 stickers in total, which is really weak especially for this fighting style ( And around 30 are thing stickers, which will take up most of your sticker book anyway) . During boss fights, if you don't have the right set of super stickers (thing stickers) then you can't beat them, simple as that. Which can also get annoying, why? Well to get your thing stickers back, you can either go back to the beginning of the game and buy them, some of them can be pretty pricey, the other way is to go back to the original spot of the sticker, which can feel like a chore and a little bit annoying, also back tracking isn't fun. Now the only item rpg formula this game offers isn't the only problem. This game isn't adventure style like the other 3, you select levels and continue on. Exp has been removed, still no badges, removed since Thousand year door for some reason? Another fun element they removed was cooking which didn't surprise me because the items were only stickers. The level designs were fun, and I thought the graphics were great. The variety of enemies and stickers was pretty weak, they didn't add very many new items other then the raccoon tail and the frog suit, other then you've probably seen all it before. Even Super Mario 3ds and New Super Mario bros. ds 2 had more replay value, and this is suppose to be a rpg? Bosses were decent though, some of my favorites was the Tower Pokey (beaten with a baseball bat lol). Big Buzzy Beetle, Gooper Blooper was pretty cool, for some reason I had the most trouble with this one, Big Boo was cool, my favourate level was in fact 4-3 :) . Also, speaking of bosses, Kamek is wearing blue robes in this one, he should be wearing purple... It suits him better especially for rpgs, not blue. edit: Forgot to mention some other big flaws, another thing was when you engage fights and win you get nothing, no exp, except sometimes you may get some coins and if your lucky a sticker that isn't really that great 90% of the time. tltr ; basically to make another good Paper Mario game, go back to the original way, bring back the leveling system, normal rpg elements, more items like Super Mario rpg, same original Paper Mario charm, more enemies, way more replay value an rpg obvious, adding 2 extra hard bosses helps a lot, cooking, tattle log, BADGES, good rpgs should have easter eggs, and anything else I missed. When you make sequels, you should make them better, not worse. tltr tltr version*; remake Paper Mario 64 as the next Paper Mario for 3ds, damn that money. Call it Paper Mario 64 3ds. Update the graphics and polish the game more... I think adding extras like enemies, items, badges, longer story, more bosses, ect, would be good. Think about it like super mario 64 ds. Paper Mario n64 - 9.8/10 Thousand Year Door gamecube - 9.7/10 Super Paper Mario wii - 8.3/10 Paper Mario Sticker Star 3ds (The worst for sure) - 7.9/10 Super Mario Rpg for snes - 9.6/10 Also the very original was Super Mario Rpg, Paper Mario was originally going to be called Super Mario Rpg 2, but that was canceled. I still loved the original Super Mario Rpg for snes, I bought it for my wii and I had fun. I think it was very good for its time, it also had the best easter eggs. Sticker Star Boo boss Paper Mario 64 Luigi's diary Super Mario Rpg secret boss Culex Princess Peach's Room Paper Mario Thousand Year Door pit of 100 trials boss Bonetail Mario Kart Super Circuit Rainbow Road Bow and Bootler Favorite theme - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0O07iyCc4s I still have faith in another good Paper Mario game :) .

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mamp
Wed 16th Jul 2014

kkslider5552000 wrote:

mamp wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Unca_Lz wrote:

I wouldn't even call this experimental. They based the entire game around a broken mechanic and took a lot of content out as a result.

Experimental doesn't have to be good.

Isn't that kind of his point?

I'm worried it might not be.

Stop worrying so much and have some spaghetti

EDIT: I think we can all agree this game's biggest crime was having no hilarious Luigi stories.

[Edited Wed 16th Jul 2014 by mamp]

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Electricmastro
Wed 16th Jul 2014

Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

Or, how SS isn't that bad!!!

I wouldn't say that it's bad, but I will say that it's my least favorite of the series.

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Nintendo_Ninja
Wed 16th Jul 2014

Electricmastro wrote:

Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

Or, how SS isn't that bad!!!

I wouldn't say that it's bad, but I will say that it's my least favorite of the series.

That's a reasonable claim.

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kkslider5552000
Wed 16th Jul 2014

Even as someone who likes the game, I'll say that Sticker Star is a master class in how not to change the core gameplay mechanics in your franchise,

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3dsplayer
Wed 16th Jul 2014

Spoony_Tech wrote:

Sometimes you experiment with a formula or series and it works a la Double Dash sometimes it doesn't. I'm not saying the Sticker Star doesn't work because I liked it but it's quite obvious a lot of people do. Luigis Mansion did a little experiment and it both worked and didn't.

Ok your not making any sense all those games you just mentioned are all good, double dash, both luigi's mansion were really good, sticker star sucked.

[Edited Wed 16th Jul 2014 by 3dsplayer]

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3dsplayer
Wed 16th Jul 2014

Electricmastro wrote:

Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

Or, how SS isn't that bad!!!

I wouldn't say that it's bad, but I will say that it's my least favorite of the series.

7.9/10

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3dsplayer
Wed 16th Jul 2014

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Even as someone who likes the game, I'll say that Sticker Star is a master class in how not to change the core gameplay mechanics in your franchise,

Yeah.

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New_3DaSh_XL
Wed 16th Jul 2014

3dsplayer wrote:

Electricmastro wrote:

Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

Or, how SS isn't that bad!!!

I wouldn't say that it's bad, but I will say that it's my least favorite of the series.

7.9/10

...which isn't a bad score in the least...

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kkslider5552000
Wed 16th Jul 2014

AddADashOfSalt wrote:

3dsplayer wrote:

Electricmastro wrote:

Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

Or, how SS isn't that bad!!!

I wouldn't say that it's bad, but I will say that it's my least favorite of the series.

7.9/10

...which isn't a bad score in the least...

sadly some people think anything below a 9 is worse than Hitler

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Nintendo_Ninja
Wed 16th Jul 2014

7/10 is a reasonable score for the game.

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3dsplayer
Wed 16th Jul 2014

Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

7/10 is a reasonable score for the game.

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3dsplayer
Sun 20th Jul 2014

bump

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Spoony_Tech
Sun 20th Jul 2014

3dsplayer wrote:

bump

Seriously? Crave attention much?

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Eel
Sun 20th Jul 2014

kkslider5552000 wrote:

AddADashOfSalt wrote:

3dsplayer wrote:

Electricmastro wrote:

Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

Or, how SS isn't that bad!!!

I wouldn't say that it's bad, but I will say that it's my least favorite of the series.

7.9/10

...which isn't a bad score in the least...

sadly some people think anything below a 9 is worse than Hitler

The modern rating system:

10 - Perfect
9 - Good
8 - Passable
7 or less - lol shovelware junk

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Joeynator3000
Sun 20th Jul 2014

....Why is this thread still going? o_0

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OptometristLime
Sun 20th Jul 2014

Xiao_Pai wrote:

....Why is this thread still going? o_0

This thread keeps coming back, like a bad skin condition. Just look at all these

3dsplayer wrote:

bump s

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3dsplayer
Sun 20th Jul 2014

Spoony_Tech wrote:

3dsplayer wrote:

bump

Seriously? Crave attention much?

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3dsplayer
Sun 20th Jul 2014

Tops wrote:

One of my biggest problems besides the backtracking and obtuse specific-item puzzles was that the bosses were broken. Most of the time I had no idea which item I had to turn into a sticker to use (if I had even found the item needed) so I would waste almost all my stickers or I had the item and the boss became laughably easy.

Yup, well actually the only time I had trouble was with the blooper boss, suppose to use a radio lol.

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3dsplayer
Sun 20th Jul 2014

Morphbug wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

AddADashOfSalt wrote:

3dsplayer wrote:

Electricmastro wrote:

Nintendo_Ninja wrote:

Or, how SS isn't that bad!!!

I wouldn't say that it's bad, but I will say that it's my least favorite of the series.

7.9/10

...which isn't a bad score in the least...

sadly some people think anything below a 9 is worse than Hitler

The modern rating system:

10 - Perfect
9 - Good
8 - Passable
7 or less - lol shovelware junk

Guess sticker star is shovelware junk lol

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3dsplayer
Sun 20th Jul 2014

Xiao_Pai wrote:

....Why is this thread still going? o_0

bcuz ilu

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