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CaviarMeths

kkslider5552000 wrote:

(also, you're being super overdramatic)

I don't think so. It's bizarre. The comment reads like it came out of the 50s.

"I know plenty a' broads who like it, so ease up, will ya?"

I mean, what better opportunity to have female characters in a Zelda game than a multiplayer game where you customize your own avatar? It wouldn't even require much work. The characters are childlike anyway, so the models wouldn't need much changing. Hair a bit longer and and maybe bodies slightly more pear-shaped. Someone could code that in a day.

I'm not upset, just weirded out that the reasoning for not having female characters amounts to a No Girls Allowed sign on the clubhouse.

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DefHalan

CaviarMeths wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

(also, you're being super overdramatic)

I don't think so. It's bizarre. The comment reads like it came out of the 50s.

"I know plenty a' broads who like it, so ease up, will ya?"

I mean, what better opportunity to have female characters in a Zelda game than a multiplayer game where you customize your own avatar? It wouldn't even require much work. The characters are childlike anyway, so the models wouldn't need much changing. Hair a bit longer and and maybe bodies slightly more pear-shaped. Someone could code that in a day.

I'm not upset, just weirded out that the reasoning for not having female characters amounts to a No Girls Allowed sign on the clubhouse.

I think it eeads more that they didn't think about it and they haven't gotten complaints from the staff. I don't think it is an issue, once the game comes out it will be easier to see and comment on it.

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kkslider5552000

CaviarMeths wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

(also, you're being super overdramatic)

I don't think so. It's bizarre. The comment reads like it came out of the 50s.

"I know plenty a' broads who like it, so ease up, will ya?"

I mean, what better opportunity to have female characters in a Zelda game than a multiplayer game where you customize your own avatar? It wouldn't even require much work. The characters are childlike anyway, so the models wouldn't need much changing. Hair a bit longer and and maybe bodies slightly more pear-shaped. Someone could code that in a day.

I'm not upset, just weirded out that the reasoning for not having female characters amounts to a No Girls Allowed sign on the clubhouse.

i repeat my previous statement

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Tops

It's not the worst thing in the world to have 3 Links but no female protagonist(s) but it does seem like an oversight on the developers' part when Link can wear Zelda's dress yet she herself is left out of the adventure.

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kkslider5552000

Tops wrote:

It's not the worst thing in the world to have 3 Links but no female protagonist(s) but it does seem like an oversight on the developers' part when Link can wear Zelda's dress yet she herself is left out of the adventure.

Yeah. It's basically 3 Swords Adventure and that was the easy, immediate answer instead of making it multiple characters.

And that is a shame. I would be much more hyped if this was a co-op game with Link, Zelda and Groose.

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Dezzy

CaviarMeths wrote:

Unreal. Is this an actual modern day video game company, or an episode of Mad Men?

What exactly is wrong with that response? You conveniently didn't copy the IGN guy's question where he tried to guilt them into a further response by claiming he was speaking on behalf of all female gamers. The Nintendo guy's reply was a completely legitimate one to that and I kinda interpreted as "not everyone has an obsessive need to play as their own sex in every game."
I entirely agree with that. There shouldn't be a female Link, there shouldn't be a male Samus, there shouldn't be a male Lara. Not everything needs to be equally accessible to everyone. In fact things are much more dull that way, it stops you having to use your imagination.
It's fine for him to ask the question but claiming that he was speaking on behalf of all female gamers was ridiculous. Most people just don't care that much about this and would rather the developer wasn't bullied into changing their game.

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TuVictus

They really should just say "Because it's our game and we felt like it"

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TeeJay

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They really should just say "Because it's our game and we felt like it"

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OptometristLime

Tops wrote:

It's not the worst thing in the world to have 3 Links but no female protagonist(s) but it does seem like an oversight on the developers' part when Link can wear Zelda's dress yet she herself is left out of the adventure.

I disagree that it's an oversight, when the costume is an obvious nod to Zelda's character. They are being overtly silly here and it's asinine to be offended when they could have not included Zelda's outfit at all (and no one would be the wiser).

Hyrule Warriors exists and has female characters to the nth degree, so it's only backwards to think of Nintendo without acknowledging their recent (?) efforts to represent both genders.

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kkslider5552000

Look, even people who are paid to write about this frequently can't give worthwhile or intelligent opinions about gender in games, I'm certainly not interested in random internet poster's opinions. And this honestly isn't as bad as bringing back Metroid without Samus imo.

I will say though it does me think this is the least discussion worthy Zelda ever. Not that it's bad by any means but it's a new 4 Swords with ALBW graphics/control, and some new features. And 3 people. It's one of the most "it is what it is" games I've seen in a while. Other than stuff that is amusing to be in a Zelda game (POM POMS) my response to anything added beyond what would be expected of a new Four Swords is simply "ok, that's a thing"

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Tops

OptometristLime wrote:

Tops wrote:

It's not the worst thing in the world to have 3 Links but no female protagonist(s) but it does seem like an oversight on the developers' part when Link can wear Zelda's dress yet she herself is left out of the adventure.

I disagree that it's an oversight, when the costume is an obvious nod to Zelda's character. They are being overtly silly here and it's asinine to be offended when they could have not included Zelda's outfit at all (and no one would be the wiser).

Hyrule Warriors exists and has female characters to the nth degree, so it's only backwards to think of Nintendo without acknowledging their recent (?) efforts to represent both genders.

I get the humour of it, and I do find it funny, but it would also be amusing if they were both playable and you could switch their outfits or something. Don't get me wrong I'm not offended by it in any way, but being able to play a Zelda would be fun too.

Also, yeah, 90% of the reason Hyrule Warriors is awesome is because of all the different characters we're finally able to play as regardless of their gender or species. Continuing the trend couldn't hurt, though.

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Barely_Able

Maybe they still have time to add additional characters. It's basically a pallet swap, so it shouldn't be too much work to code it (although the "story" might not allow for the changes). This game does seem like a good opportunity to include more playable characters though. I don't think it's anything to get bent out of shape over, but variety can be nice (Nintendo does seems to be one of the few companies that provides gender options and looks to actually be working on addressing fan request for further diversity of characters).

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Dezzy

Barely_Able wrote:

(Nintendo does seems to be one of the few companies that provides gender options and looks to actually be working on addressing fan request for further diversity of characters).

One of the few companies? Hate to break it to you but I fear you've been listening to media narratives too much and not looking at data. The number of games with a sex option for characters is actually greater than the number of sole male and sole female combined at this point. In the last 5 years, more and more games have gone for that option.

Part of the reason I'm against a female Link (and would be against a male Samus equally, (just for the far left wingers)) is because I really don't like this trend at all. I much prefer being given a set character and forced to try and use my imagination rather than try and make everything change to my personal liking.
Including a sex option for characters doesn't promote "diversity" at all. It promotes uniformity with a superficially diverse coat of paint. Diversity would be having as many different types of individual characters in different games as possible. Which I'm all in favour of!

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kkslider5552000

CM30 wrote:

You mean?

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Either way, Link in a dress... a very amusing response to all the feminist complaints about there being no female version of Link.

Thank you, I've had some bizarre issues trying to upload things like this lately...

And no I don't think it's a response, I don't think Nintendo gives a **** and just think putting Link in a dress is a fun gameplay thing that made them chuckle. Which is probably why I'm fine with them not having a female character option, because they do a good job at putting women in other games without having to be told to do so, as if they would need to be told to do so.

It also kinda evens out since Link is more and more made as a character for women it seems (since he's always either adorable young link or bishonen anime teen link nowadays).

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TuVictus

I get a kick out of dressing my Animal Crossing villager in woman's clothing, as I will for Link. This and Wooly World will be releasing the week of my birthday, so hopefully I can get both as gifts from family.

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