Topic: Pokémon Sun & Moon - Discussion & Speculation

I remember I was put a Snorunt in the Gts asking for a Mewtwo, just to see if anyone would actually trade it. I got 4 Mewtwos that way.

Another issue (at least in Gen 5 for certain) was how the GTS flagged nicknames. I understand why this was implemented, but it took me a bit to figure out why I couldn't put a Nosepass up for trade without giving it a nickname.

C'mon Game Freak, you gave it that name, not me.

Serebii posted some likely legitimate leaks of Pokémon. I assume this is the July 1st news. Spoilers and own risk, you know the drill: http://www.serebii.net/

• First one reminds me of Valoo from Zelda: The Wind Waker. Presumably a Dragon-type.
• The second one is the traditional Pikachu-like rodent. Clearly Electric-type.
• The third one appears to be somewhat like Heracross or Pinsir. A stag bettle basically. Bug/Flying-type probably.
• Is that fourth one a bug or some kind of hummingbird? I like those tiny legs. Gonna go with Bug/Flying.
• That fifth one is both pretty and ugly at the same time. Is this the Magikarp or Basculin of this generation. At least it's a fish so it's likely Water-type.
• The sixth one looks like it comes right out of Minecraft with that block-shaped body. Looks like a Bug-type. Might this be Grubbin's evolution?

I was about to post that...

I honestly only like the design of the Pikachu look-alike.

@Tsurii They're all ugly, but so is that weasel thing. I believe some of the environments are new as well, if it's fake, it's a really good one.

@Rensch That beetle is probably the last evo of the new bug line.

As far as I can tell, these seem to be real, but it's impossible to definitively conclude that. I suppose if they are real we'll know for sure on Friday.

@Bolt_Strike @Tsurii It appears that they're real, since you've already seen them, it's not a spoiler anymore, but here's a video where you can see them in their battle animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWrczca4A6Y

Don't know for how long the video will stay up, but I guess they will be removed at some point. There's separate videos for all the newly ''leaked'' Pokémon.

@Rensch @Tsurii Since they're real, I'm going to post the rest in spoiler tags..

@Tsurii That's just his animation, happens in other battles as well. Look for the other vids, they are more detailed. It's one thing to fake a still image, but to fake seven 30 sec long battle sequences is almost impossible.

Eh. I'm not feeling their designs. Some of them just look plain ugly to me.

Those designs are kinda weird. I like them. Also, that's definitely a mosquito, not a hummingbird.

What's happening tomorrow? I haven't been keeping up with Pokemon news.

I hadn't seen the tiki warrior one yet. Looks a bit like it might be a Bug-type as well. This is the only one whose design I really like. The other ones are either too weird or too generic.

I assume they are legit, so I'm curious to learn more tomorrow.

@IceClimbers Try hummingbird moth: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/09/04/article-1211187-031...

@Tsurii Pokémon showdown is different, those are 2D animations and that still doesn't look like the real deal. I have yet to see someone fake 3D battle animations. Yeah, they're ugly, but they're real.

@Octane The wings still look more like a mosquito's than a hummingbird moth's.

@IceClimbers I looked at it again, and look at this: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/63/07/d4/6307d42ba8... These are bee flies, some of the species in this group resemble hairy bumblebees.

@Tsurii No, Showdown still looks the same; 2D pixel art-style battles.

@Octane Now that looks a lot closer to the Pokemon.

Sorry but looks like these are definitely real. Found this from Serebii, JP Pokemon Youtube posted the video early I think.

They are honestly not that bad. The dragon, mouse and bugs look cool. In Pokemon there are always a few ugly Pokemon designs. I don't know why anyone is surprised. If you don't like the new Pokemon then don't catch them or worse comes to worst don't buy the game. Me, I will enjoy playing these new games with my kids.

I personally really like the new designs. I think they're a bit unconventional (probably why they're largely regarded as ugly), but I like the sort of abstract and tropical feel to them. It really looks like they've got a stylistic vision for this region and its Pokemon which I appreciate, it's something that I think Hoenn in particular did very well.