Topic: Why are some people calling Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door a remaster?

@Dogorilla The Luigi's Mansion Remake is really good, I just wish it was on Switch instead. Also for some reason it didn't remake the soundtrack, which is something that TTYD is doing.

@PikminMarioKirby Actually, I DID have it preordered on Amazon, but they automatically canceled my order, something about them not having enough to meet demand.

@card-crunch78 Yeah Thousand-Year Door has been down on amazon for well over a month now, it is very concerning because the game is only a month away. It was topping charts impressively high, it was insane. Now it's not only down but they are cancelling pre-orders...

You can still pre-order on Gamestop and most other retailers, if you were still wanting to pre order it. I personally got the digital version, but I know a lot of people prefer physical games. This game is good to get physical anyways because the original is super expensive nowadays so it might be best to get this one before it's prices potentially go up (depends on how well Nintendo provides copies)

@PikminMarioKirby Personally, I’d rather order my games online, it’s been my thing since 2021.

@card-crunch78 Yeah, that’s fair. You can order online on Gamestop, and they will ship the games as well. Idk about other stores though but I’m sure some do.

I'm going to buy a physical copy in Japan.
Hooray for me!

I believe it’s a remaster because if I’m Not mistaken a thousand year door All ready existed in some shape or form at one time.

@Uncle_Franklin Cool! “Paper Mario RPG” is a pretty cool name, and I’m glad they kept that name from the original Japan TTYD

@Atomic77 Then that means remakes don’t exist (because most if not all keep the name).
Remakes are pretty much games made again from the ground up, which is what TTYD is.

@PikminMarioKirby Plus I've heard some pretty unsavory things from GameStop.

It's true, Gamestop executives sacrifice kittens in dark rituals to keep the company alive.

@FishyS ...that's not what I...you know what, never mind.

@card-crunch78 Yeah I feel like Gamestop follows fake gaming trends too much and it just makes them worse. Idk if BestBuy ships, but you probably can buy it online. Same with Target. Nintendo.com physical pre orders should start pretty soon as well, maybe sometime this week.

@PikminMarioKirby I can confirm that Best Buy does deliver. I've preordered Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury from their website and they delivered the game to my home.

@MarioVillager92 Oh wow cool! Yeah that’ll be good to know.

I’ve heard GameStop eats the games that don’t sell well.

Honestly, this is just my own perspective.

When I hear the term remake, I think of something more along the lines of a reimagining. I need at least one of these criteria:

• Does it look the same? Do the visuals, graphics, art style, assets, etc etc., all look the same? I think of Trials of Mana when I think of a visual remake. The story is the same, but the graphics have been completely reimagined.
• Is it the same story? Is the story exactly the same? Does it continue the narrative beyond the scope of the original game?
• Is it the same gameplay? Does this new product expand the mechanics, the features, improve the combat, or in any way expand the original product functionally?

If it looks the same, the gameplay is the same, and the story is exactly the same, then... I guess it's fine to call it a remake from a technical perspective, but I have a hard time holding the game in the same esteem as other remakes like Trials of Mana, FF7R, Ocarina of Time 3D, etc.

@Ulysses Well if you’ve seen the visuals in new TTYD compared to the original, it’s completely redone, so in this perspective it is a remake!

Yeah TTYD remake doesn’t even have a lot about it revealed yet so we could also be seeing more gameplay/slight script changes in it as well.

Also the Ocarina of Time remake is essentially in the same spot as Thousand Year Door, where they’re new games that are very accurate to the original game, and very much visually improved over the original. Thousand Year Door may have even more improvements with all of the reflections and lighting added to it, along with potentially a good amount of new content.

I think the distinction Ulysses was getting at was whether the graphics look different at a coarser level, not in the fine details. TTYD versions are definitely different but are kind of in the vein of 'they look identical if you take your glasses off'. But on the other hand you have remakes that take 2D into only barely related 3D like FF7 or trials of mana; no one would think they look the same. Even the much-hated Chbi art style in the recent Pokemon Diamond remake is much more of a reimagining. TTYD is remade with fancier graphics but they are aiming for a near-identical art style and at a coarse level they basically look the same.

@PikminMarioKirby
Btw, which one you will accept?
Remake or Remastered?