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Agent721

@Moroboshi876

I feel the same way about TFIV. It seemed easier the first time and now Im dying constantly. I haven’t done that well on either that one Or Aqua Kitty DX. I plan on trying again but yeah...very tough going on TFIV.

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GFoyle

I'm at stage 7 now in TFIV (1 credit only, I don't feel like using those extra credits in this game, at least not yet). I had a almost perfect run until that, at least 7+ lives, all the power ups and then the freaking game started really hunting me. I killed the stage 6 boss with my last life, no power ups at all. When I have done practicing separately, I never have had such problems with that stage.

btw. I definitely got confirmation that this game has bugs... I my first run I got into situation where the backgrounds just scrolled, music played but nothing happened (after killing the mid boss in the Strite stage) and after few minutes wondering wtf I ended my game. Few times that boss just haven't died no matter what I do or it takes minutes to kill it (sometimes also the main boss of the stage seem to take forever to kill even when I'm shooting it right at the orb all the time like you should).

Not going anywhere in other games yet. I need to get into Wild Guns more definitely, just need to figure out how to kill the boss on the rooftop safely. Any tips for that, not involving lasso which I suck at using?

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Moroboshi876

Agent721 wrote:

@Moroboshi876

I feel the same way about TFIV. It seemed easier the first time and now Im dying constantly. I haven’t done that well on either that one Or Aqua Kitty DX. I plan on trying again but yeah...very tough going on TFIV.

Thanks, bro. I don't feel alone anymore.

@Gfoyle I'm definitely bad at this game and can only admire the fact that you get so far with 1 credit. Wow. But now that you mention bugs, I don't know if this is one, but I was fighting the mid-stage boss on Stage 1, sadly without power-ups, and after a lot of time hitting it on the right spot with the rear shot, I ended up getting tired and he destroyed me. In another run, with the enhanced rear shot, I killed it in a few seconds. I understand without power-ups it has to be harder, but minutes and minutes of shooting without any results... could it be a bug?

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GFoyle

Moroboshi876 wrote:

@Gfoyle I'm definitely bad at this game and can only admire the fact that you get so far with 1 credit. Wow. But now that you mention bugs, I don't know if this is one, but I was fighting the mid-stage boss on Stage 1, sadly without power-ups, and after a lot of time hitting it on the right spot with the rear shot, I ended up getting tired and he destroyed me. In another run, with the enhanced rear shot, I killed it in a few seconds. I understand without power-ups it has to be harder, but minutes and minutes of shooting without any results... could it be a bug?

That's the same place I was talking about, sometimes it takes forever to kill it if you don't have railgun and probably has to be some sort of bug, because the difference is many minutes.

The bug what happened to me was when I killed that mid boss super quick, suddenly the phase change didn't happen when the background slows down and you you go under water (btw. there is three-way power up there then when it go under water, just go to the bottom and the right corner, when you get it, go to middle immediately and you get 1-up too.. be careful and move back after that or you can get killed)

That mid-boss dies very quickly if you have rail gun + claw and you shoot it right at front of it. Not sure, it might require that it has shot those lasers at least once before you can kill it. That proximity definitely makes a huge difference in killing time and maybe it helps to kill it at least a bit faster without railgun, haven't tried)

btw. that is I think stage 4 actually, initial stages are officially numbered clockwise starting from the desert one.

Oh, I also tried the stage 6 a bit more and staying closer to the bottom as much as possible is definitely a bit easier than staying on top, more space to dodge stuff. There is shield and 1-up on the top, which you will miss... for me now it's definitely still better to be at the bottom.

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Moroboshi876

Corneel wrote:

Last day to get your votes in for next round!
Voting for the next month challenges

What? I didn't see the first warning! Well, it will be a surprise then LOL

I haven't had the time to keep playing current games, but I hope I'll be able to try again tomorrow. I'm not confident I'm getting better on time, but I'll try.

A little off-topic: I received the Flip Grip yesterday! It's great!

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Corneel

@Moroboshi876 Nice! You finally have your Flip Grip! Too bad you missed the voting for next round. We have a great lineup nonetheless! You will be able to use the fancy flip grip for two challenges next week...no Donkey Kong sadly

There are still four days left for the current set of challenges.

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bushidosnail

@Moroboshi876 That's pretty cool! I didn't know about those, I just ordered one. How fast did they ship yours out?

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Moroboshi876

@bushidosnail It was supposed to take 2 to 6 weeks and fortunately it took 2.

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bushidosnail

Think this is about as good as I'm gonna get on Aqua Kitty before the deadline. Cleared a couple of stages on TFIV, but honestly just wasn't digging this one. The real surprise was how much I ended up enjoying Outrun, and am going to keep working on my score a little bit before times up.

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Corneel

@BushidoSnail Too bad Thunder Force IV didn't click with you, although you are not the only one to say so during this challenge. Looking forward to find out if you are able to beat your current Out Run highscore.

Also a friendly reminder to everyone that the current set of challenges ends tomorrow at 23:59 CET. Be sure to post your scores or improvements before that time.

Check the current standings here.
And the highscores for Out Run and Aqua Kitty here.

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GFoyle

Thunder Force IV IMO is a flawed masterpiece. It definitely has it's problems, but the stage, enemy design is epic and really creative.

When I bought on Switch, I hadn't ever played it and after those initial runs I really didn't see why it has been so praised and highly thought of. I felt I'm always dying to some cheap, unfair death, which I didn't have any time to react to was especially something I didn't like. Eventually it started to click, especially during this challenge and the main reason was that I started to remember the stages better, where the enemies come and learn some better tactics in different situations. Suddenly it didn't feel that hard at all and it came even more easier when I started to use save points in practicing, which speed up the memorisation process a lot.

So I hope even with some initial dislike or disappointment, some of you give the game a real change at a later date as I believe it starts to click after you get past the initial steep learning curve.

Oh and I really like the fact that the difference stages are not too different what comes to difficulty, even that last full stages are not much harder than the early ones after you start learn them (just remember to use those save points for that practicing!). This is very uncommon in shmups, which usually get more and more difficult very quickly.

Oh and if some of you didn't notice, if you go to the rankings from main menu, you can watch the replays of the top scores and learn a lot, get ideas etc.

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Moroboshi876

@GFoyle I'm sure you're right, but I'm not going to make it on time for this challenge, so today I'll be trying some more Out Run and tonight I'm staying late in order to attack Aqua Kitty, a game I had played before, but not arcade mode, and this changes a lot, because I had never played with the 1 life limit.

In Out Run I'm unable to finish any course, at least for now. I did it on 3DS, but this version has to be even closer to the arcade somehow, because I can't. I keep crashing stupidly and restarting after making a stupid mistake in parts you already mastered is tiresome, but best case scenario I lose because I just play it safe when I'm in stage 3 or 4, and running slower punishes you anyway because you lose seconds, it's just you don't see it as painfully as when you see your car crash.

It's been fun to take part in these challenges one month more, anyway. But it hurts when you abandon other games to focus on these ones and the results are so bad.

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GFoyle

Yeah, just remember this is just for fun and idea for 4 different games, 1 month was to make it flexible and free enough that people wouldn't have huge pressure only to play challenge game during the period. Of course if you decide to play all 4 or even 3 and want to do good, then it will take time. I suggest selecting maybe in 1 or 2 per challenge if you feel that you don't have enough time playing other games or feeling pressure, which might kill the fun at some point.

I have been focusing mostly on TF4 during this challenge, other games I have been playing really casually, enough to get some result, but not aiming for top. Even TF4 haven't been that super serious during these weeks.

Outrun... that freaking random traffic gets me every time. Not huge fan as I think that element plays too big of a part in doing well.

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Moroboshi876

@GFoyle I think you're right. Next time I'll stick to 2 games tops. I feel the pressure otherwise.

Out Run is a game I love, despite not being really good at it. Of course I don't have hundreds of hours of experience, but a couple dozens maybe. Anyway yes, a traffic that is not that random, but sometimes it is, hurts a lot. It's good for the variety, but can destroy a good run in a matter of seconds.

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GFoyle

I think the random is okay for casual play, but from score chaining point of view it sucks as I feel it dimishes the skill factor too much. Of course you need to play the game well to finish in any case, but getting bad traffic in bad spots multiple time can mean you won't finish at all (let say all lanes are taken in some difficult turn, you don't much options to slow down and wait or overtake offroad if there is no obstacles there (which hurts your score). Was it 1mil extra for every second left in the end? Even one such random bad traffic means huge difference in score the very least even if you manage to the end.

But anyway, good driving/playing anybody who managed to finish it even once! Even without traffic it's not very easy...

btw. it's pretty much 1:1 with the arcade version I think, I just tried the original arcade version last weekend and the difference was only the fact that it has a wheel and pedals

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Moroboshi876

@GFoyle And the lack of Ferrari's logo LOL

But yes, even when I managed to finish the A course on 3DS, and they said it was the arcade version (even Switch version is supposed to be based on 3DS's), whenever I tried the arcade version I found it harder. Saturn version, which was at that time the most faithful console port according to a lot of people, felt harder than 3D Out Run.

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GFoyle

I think the 3ds was done by M2 as the Switch version and if anybody can replicate arcade version, it's them. I would think 3ds is pretty much same as the Switch version in terms of difficulty. The traffic has so huge effect on difficulty that it can be really hard to tell whether some version is more difficult than another.

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Moroboshi876

@GFoyle I must be rustier than I thought, then LOL

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