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Topic: If Sega went back to making consoles, would you buy the product?

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Bowsotnik

Yes it is hard to believe. Mario Bros 3 is one of the best games ever, Sonic on the Master System is fun. Course, you can believe that Superman 64 is better than Ocarina of Time - I'd still question it though.

Oh, and I know why there are no more SEGA consoles, it was a question for you to answer. You seem to be a fan.

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Bowsotnik

Reala

I like Mario 3 but prefer Sonic, not exactly a Superman 64 vs OOT type comparison as far as I see, as for your question for me to answer, look for yourself the answers aren't hard to find, I ain't doing your search for you.

Reala

Bowsotnik

I'll say it one more time - It wasn't a straight question, I know why. It was me putting the question to you, as part of my point of view.

I'm not asking you to 'do my search for me'.

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Bowsotnik

Reala

Bowsotnik wrote:

I'll say it one more time - It wasn't a straight question, I know why. It was me putting the question to you, as part of my point of view.

I'm not asking you to 'do my search for me'.

If you know the answer then I don't understand why ask the question, but anywho, my own opinion is it was the result of infighting between divisions, as well as a battered reputation from failed add-ons, hiring Bernie Stollar(think that was his name) didn't help either, since he believed 2D games and RPG's where too dated, despite both being the Saturns strong points.

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Reala

madgear

Actually I can agree on some of that. I remember the first time I saw Sonic The Hedgehog in action - it was in a cinema advert and had Sonic flying up past the neon lights of the Spring Yard Zone. It was the only time I think I've conciously been aware of advertising working on me and not caring - I had to have it.

But I could never say Sega was better than Nintendo or vice versa. They've both made absolutely incredible games - I generally tended to lean more to the Sega side of things when they were in the console battles of yesteryear, but I could never really choose one over the other.

madgear

Bowsotnik

Reala wrote:

If you know the answer then I don't understand why ask the question, but anywho, my own opinion is it was the result of infighting between divisions, as well as a battered reputation from failed add-ons, hiring Bernie Stollar(think that was his name) didn't help either, since he believed 2D games and RPG's where too dated, despite both being the Saturns strong points.

Well I ask because you gave me a lot of positive comments towards SEGA in your post, yet if things actually were that positive - why did they stop making consoles. So what I'm saying is, and this is just my opinion, maybe things weren't as positive for SEGA as you seem to think?

Oh, and SEGA stopped making consoles because they were not making enough money.

I'm also not interested in a SEGA vs Nintendo argument, btw, but my 'if SEGA were so good, where are the SEGA consoles' point is valid. If SEGA had ruled the console markets for a few decades, we'd all be playing on the SEGA SG-9999 Jupiter now.

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Bowsotnik

Reala

Sega to me represented style and action, Nintendo to me represents creativity and substance, I like to enjoy best of both worlds, and thanks to the VC we all can, too bad Sega isn't what it used to be, but I think it may be on the mend, with allstar racing getting positive reviews, and Sonic 4 on the way I'm actually pretty optimistic about Sega, first time I've felt that in years, but still going ahead on a console, don't think Sega is there yet.

I'm not defending Sega, all I'm trying to say is to a lot of people, Sega games where what they enjoyed most, definitely not attacking Nintendo by saying that, just saying I disagreed Nintendo blew Sega away, today they do obviously, but Sega had a number of high quality titles, that I feel fare very well against Nintendos best titles.

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Reala

madgear

He is right in a way - in the UK (and I assume Europe) the Master System and the Megadrive were the popular consoles. They just messed up in a big way when it came to the Saturn, making the PlayStation seem the much more desirable option.

Same thing has happened with Sony now. You can't deny Sony dominated the last 2 generations, but this one it's Nintendo and Sony have fallen to third. It doesn't mean their domination of the market didn't happen, though, just because they're in third place now.

madgear

Bowsotnik

Sonic 4 is an 0-Day purchase, without thinking about it. No doubt about that.

We will be playing it on Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft consoles though. And the reason is money.

And yeah, SEGA did well in Europe, so well that, as I said, my first 2 proper consoles were SEGA machines. Again - this means nothing now, apart from some good memories, as anyone looking for the Saturn 3 in the shops would find out.

You say in Europe the Mega Drive was the popular console, as if the SNES never really sold in Europe. The SNES was successful around the world, as we know. You can't compare the NES domination of the Master System in the USA, to the Mega Drive outselling the SNES in Europe... as one was a slaughter, and the other almost a straight fight.

What would be interesting would be NES - Master System sales figures for Europe. Rough figures, anyone?

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Bowsotnik

madgear

Actually I'm not even sure what we're talking about any more. I'm just saying that Sega were a success for a time - nothing about them crushing Nintendo into oblivion or anything. What outsold what is a different topic to what we were discussing - we don't really need to go into that since it's not 1993 any more.

madgear

Bowsotnik

Well then we agree. SEGA was successful for a time.

Don't think anyone actually said they weren't though...

Bowsotnik

Reala

Sega's success seems to be more regional than Nintendo's, the UK and Brazil seem to be 2 areas Sega did really well, due perhaps to Nintendo's late arrival to those areas in comparison to other areas, another example could be the Saturn, which I think was the only Sega console to have major success in Japan, despite its success there it sold poorly pretty much everywhere else, so Sega's success looks to be much more regional than Nintendo's.

Reala

I disagree Reala, Nintendo has no creativity or substance. Sonic does though, as well as the action!

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