As Mister_Wu pointed, from a GFlop perspective, it is only slightly more powerful than a Wii U, BUT, it's also important to consider that not all GFlops are created equal. With the addition of new APIs and better dev tools, the Switch's GFlops are much more efficient and better performing (e.g., BoTW on Wii U vs Switch in handheld mode).
Is this impressive for a handheld gaming device? Absolutely. Is this impressive for a gaming device primarily being advertised as a console first, that you can take with you on the go? eh...that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Will the Switch get new western 3rd party AAA titles? Probably not. Well, at least not ones that aren't massively downgraded from their console brethren.
The real question here is one of longevity. How long can a downgraded X1 keep Nintendo's soon-to-be singular gaming device relevant?
The good news is that most reports from Devs (especially indies), suggest that the Switch is extremely easy to develop for. So at least for the near future (i.e., next 2 years) we should hopefully see a nice selection of games.
The new car comparisons are good, and I think all of you have made valid points. The only thing is, I think we aren't quite comparing accurately, as the Switch is not a 1 for 1 comparison with the XBox and PS4. I think a more adept comparison would be a car (pick your brand) to something more akin to the Polaris Slingshot, as it's more of a car/motorcycle hybrid.
@ThanosReXXX Though we may not be in 100% agreement, we are pretty close. Your last paragraph in comment #187 I completely agree with. That's why I said being a fan and investor are mutually exclusive.
It's as though you and I are both looking at the same orange, but from different sides. We both agree on its size, its color, its smell, etc. The only disagreement we have is that on my side I see a tiny brown spot. That's it.
Also, for the record, I don't think the price point is bad per se, it's just for me, based on the information that we have at the moment, I'm not compelled to make the purchase. Again, based on current information, i.e., mainly launch line-up. I actually harbor no ill-will towards the Switch: I always take the wait and see approach as a consumer. If a company wants my money, it's on the company to sell their goods or service to me. You understand that in your line of work.
Anyways, I'll probably just go back to reading the articles/comments, and not actively comment (I hate the term lurker, it implies something nefarious) as I've done for the past several years. Usually my sentiments are represented by a lot of the active commentors.
I’m an investor (not a huge one), and I’m also a Nintendo fan; those two things are mutually exclusive.
As an investor, I sold some of my Ninty shares back in mid-July at the height of the Pokemon Go! craze. Why? Profit, I bought the stock when it was barely over 11USD - in mid-July it was in the upper 30s. However, I kept the majority of my shares in a wait and see approach with the then NX. A lot of investors were feeling the same (which was artificially keeping the share price inflated). Immediately after the presentation Thursday evening, I went and put some additional shares up for sale. I did this for two reasons: one, the stock was still overpriced due to Pokemon Go!; and two the presentation on Thursday evening was very lackluster (extremely disappointing as a longtime Nintendo fan watching with my kids, except for Zelda…that Zelda trailer was…wow), and I knew it would not create further market momentum. Kind of funny thing is, when I had my first sell-off in July, I intended on using a portion of the profit from that on buying a Switch at launch. Now, I’m thinking I’ll wait at least until the holiday season to see how things play out. Right now I feel as though the Switch isn’t much more than a Zelda tax for me and my family.
@ThanosReXXX I think your post is mostly spot on; however, I disagree with your wanting to compare launch prices. The reason I disagree with this is that I believe that Nintendo themselves disagree with this. It is my personal opinion that Nintendo felt very strongly about keeping the price point in-line with that of the competitors’ current pricing due to their lack of remaining market/brand capital. Though you, me, and a few others loved their Wii U, the problem is just that, only a few others enjoyed it: it was a commercial fail. They are still a brand that has some cachet left, but not enough to drive the average consumer on that alone. Whether we consider Msft and Sony direct competitors or not, all three are fighting for the same finite pot of consumer entertainment funds. @WOLF1313 nails this
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Re: Nintendo Switch Chip X-Ray Suggests The Console Is Running A Stock Nvidia Tegra X1
@DanteSolablood @Mister_Wu
As Mister_Wu pointed, from a GFlop perspective, it is only slightly more powerful than a Wii U, BUT, it's also important to consider that not all GFlops are created equal. With the addition of new APIs and better dev tools, the Switch's GFlops are much more efficient and better performing (e.g., BoTW on Wii U vs Switch in handheld mode).
Is this impressive for a handheld gaming device? Absolutely.
Is this impressive for a gaming device primarily being advertised as a console first, that you can take with you on the go? eh...that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.
Will the Switch get new western 3rd party AAA titles? Probably not. Well, at least not ones that aren't massively downgraded from their console brethren.
The real question here is one of longevity. How long can a downgraded X1 keep Nintendo's soon-to-be singular gaming device relevant?
The good news is that most reports from Devs (especially indies), suggest that the Switch is extremely easy to develop for. So at least for the near future (i.e., next 2 years) we should hopefully see a nice selection of games.
Re: Investors React Negatively to Nintendo Switch Launch Details
@ThanosReXXX
I can most definitely appreciate that
Are you familiar with Niels Bohr? There are two quotes attributed to him that I am a big fan of:
The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth.
and
Every sentence I utter must be understood not as an affirmation, but as a question.
Take care, and have a good evening. You might have another busy day in the comments section tomorrow....
Re: Investors React Negatively to Nintendo Switch Launch Details
@ThanosReXXX
HAHAHA! Perfect!
Re: Investors React Negatively to Nintendo Switch Launch Details
@ThanosRexx @WOLF1313 @ACrate81
The new car comparisons are good, and I think all of you have made valid points. The only thing is, I think we aren't quite comparing accurately, as the Switch is not a 1 for 1 comparison with the XBox and PS4. I think a more adept comparison would be a car (pick your brand) to something more akin to the Polaris Slingshot, as it's more of a car/motorcycle hybrid.
@ThanosReXXX Though we may not be in 100% agreement, we are pretty close. Your last paragraph in comment #187 I completely agree with. That's why I said being a fan and investor are mutually exclusive.
It's as though you and I are both looking at the same orange, but from different sides. We both agree on its size, its color, its smell, etc. The only disagreement we have is that on my side I see a tiny brown spot. That's it.
Also, for the record, I don't think the price point is bad per se, it's just for me, based on the information that we have at the moment, I'm not compelled to make the purchase. Again, based on current information, i.e., mainly launch line-up. I actually harbor no ill-will towards the Switch: I always take the wait and see approach as a consumer. If a company wants my money, it's on the company to sell their goods or service to me. You understand that in your line of work.
Anyways, I'll probably just go back to reading the articles/comments, and not actively comment (I hate the term lurker, it implies something nefarious) as I've done for the past several years. Usually my sentiments are represented by a lot of the active commentors.
Re: Investors React Negatively to Nintendo Switch Launch Details
I’m an investor (not a huge one), and I’m also a Nintendo fan; those two things are mutually exclusive.
As an investor, I sold some of my Ninty shares back in mid-July at the height of the Pokemon Go! craze. Why? Profit, I bought the stock when it was barely over 11USD - in mid-July it was in the upper 30s. However, I kept the majority of my shares in a wait and see approach with the then NX. A lot of investors were feeling the same (which was artificially keeping the share price inflated). Immediately after the presentation Thursday evening, I went and put some additional shares up for sale. I did this for two reasons: one, the stock was still overpriced due to Pokemon Go!; and two the presentation on Thursday evening was very lackluster (extremely disappointing as a longtime Nintendo fan watching with my kids, except for Zelda…that Zelda trailer was…wow), and I knew it would not create further market momentum.
Kind of funny thing is, when I had my first sell-off in July, I intended on using a portion of the profit from that on buying a Switch at launch. Now, I’m thinking I’ll wait at least until the holiday season to see how things play out. Right now I feel as though the Switch isn’t much more than a Zelda tax for me and my family.
@ThanosReXXX
I think your post is mostly spot on; however, I disagree with your wanting to compare launch prices. The reason I disagree with this is that I believe that Nintendo themselves disagree with this. It is my personal opinion that Nintendo felt very strongly about keeping the price point in-line with that of the competitors’ current pricing due to their lack of remaining market/brand capital. Though you, me, and a few others loved their Wii U, the problem is just that, only a few others enjoyed it: it was a commercial fail. They are still a brand that has some cachet left, but not enough to drive the average consumer on that alone. Whether we consider Msft and Sony direct competitors or not, all three are fighting for the same finite pot of consumer entertainment funds. @WOLF1313 nails this