@Magician Nintendo was around 50% at the end of 2022. Those numbers are probably nudging toward 60% by years end. The adoption paces increase as it exceeds a super-majority of overall sales and more and more games do not do physical because of the added expense of doing it versus digital. As for PS, Nintendo's digital sales are not too far behind the PS. The PS is in the mid to high 70's and a few first-party sold were in the 80's. And PS got there quite quickly from 50 to 70's just like Nintendo will. Xbox is pretty much digital with high 80's for sales all the way around.
@Arawn93 Considering th3e only game Sony first-party has released this year will be Spider-Man and that is PS5 only I think we are safe to say that PS4 from Sony first-party is done. As has been Xbox One from Microsoft. A little longer than planned but that also includes the effect of the pandemic affecting games already in development being delayed a year or so. 2 years in or a 1 1/2 years after a new gen is enough for the current Switch
@SonOfDracula You right we should apply that to Sony as well. All that fighting Sony did to limit what they had to provide. Sony should not only have to show the last couple of years (what the court limited MS request from 10 years to 3 years). But being the "honest" company, they are, Sony should show all the requested 10 years of back door deals they have made, right? The fact is Sony (the biggest hypocrite here) obviously have things to hide or they wouldn't have fought so hard to keep all those documents and personal out of the court, FTCs and Microsoft's eyes/questioning. If Sony had any integrity, they would open all their documents for everyone to see. Or is it only Nintendo's integrity you are worried about here? /s
@Wilforce IT would not have been illegal to own Fox News. No more than it is for both Comcast having ownership of NBC and all the various MSNBC news cable channels. But Fox News and its related channels (i.e Fox Business) were never for sale.
BTW. I mentioned this in another comment (and you hit on it a little too) but the only illegal aspect of the merger would would have been if Fox Network itself was part of the deal not Fox News. It wasn't. A company/person can only own one national network (OTA). Disney already owned ABC at the time. The national networks are ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, & CW
@Res462 Disney buying Fox News would not have been illegal. If that were the case Comcast would not be able to own both NBC and MSNBC.
What is illegal is owning more than one 5 national TV network (over the airwaves). For example, one company could not own both NBC and ABC. But that was not an issue with the Disney/Fox deal because the Fox TV network was not part of the deal.
What Disney could not own that was initially part of the deal was Fox Sports because that would have given Disney a monopoly with ESPN. And that was sold off separately. That issue mainly had to do with local sports. In some regions the only competition for local sports TV viewing was Fox or ESPN. And that would have given Disney 100% of those sports markets.
@Wilforce I think the article left a lot of detail. The FTC is acting like this knowledge about the deal was new. Wrong. They had the info as far back as December 2022. During that December when it was actually announced publicly about the deal at which time the FTC did nothing for over 4 months (until late March) to get documents or interviews. But by that the time (a time set by FTCs own internal court) the ability to request documents and submit them to the court had exceeded.
If you remember few months back Sony was trying to get extension on MS subpoenas (this was tool to wait out the clock) At a certain point the court (judge) had set an end point for document requests/discovery and if Sony could wait out the clock, they would have had to show less documents. The judge finally cut them off and required them to turn over documents.
In this case with respect to Nintendo, the FTC thinks the dates/rules set forth by their own court (not a federal court by a court inside the FTC itself) don't apply to them only to MS and others. Well, FTC I think this judge is probably going to slap you down.
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Re: Nintendo President Reiterates Switch Software Support Into FY24/25
@Magician Nintendo was around 50% at the end of 2022. Those numbers are probably nudging toward 60% by years end. The adoption paces increase as it exceeds a super-majority of overall sales and more and more games do not do physical because of the added expense of doing it versus digital. As for PS, Nintendo's digital sales are not too far behind the PS. The PS is in the mid to high 70's and a few first-party sold were in the 80's. And PS got there quite quickly from 50 to 70's just like Nintendo will. Xbox is pretty much digital with high 80's for sales all the way around.
Re: Nintendo President Reiterates Switch Software Support Into FY24/25
@Arawn93 Considering th3e only game Sony first-party has released this year will be Spider-Man and that is PS5 only I think we are safe to say that PS4 from Sony first-party is done. As has been Xbox One from Microsoft. A little longer than planned but that also includes the effect of the pandemic affecting games already in development being delayed a year or so. 2 years in or a 1 1/2 years after a new gen is enough for the current Switch
Re: FTC Reportedly Wants Info From Nintendo On Call Of Duty Deal (North America)
@SonOfDracula You right we should apply that to Sony as well. All that fighting Sony did to limit what they had to provide. Sony should not only have to show the last couple of years (what the court limited MS request from 10 years to 3 years). But being the "honest" company, they are, Sony should show all the requested 10 years of back door deals they have made, right? The fact is Sony (the biggest hypocrite here) obviously have things to hide or they wouldn't have fought so hard to keep all those documents and personal out of the court, FTCs and Microsoft's eyes/questioning. If Sony had any integrity, they would open all their documents for everyone to see. Or is it only Nintendo's integrity you are worried about here? /s
Re: FTC Reportedly Wants Info From Nintendo On Call Of Duty Deal (North America)
@Wilforce IT would not have been illegal to own Fox News. No more than it is for both Comcast having ownership of NBC and all the various MSNBC news cable channels. But Fox News and its related channels (i.e Fox Business) were never for sale.
BTW. I mentioned this in another comment (and you hit on it a little too) but the only illegal aspect of the merger would would have been if Fox Network itself was part of the deal not Fox News. It wasn't. A company/person can only own one national network (OTA). Disney already owned ABC at the time. The national networks are ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, & CW
Re: FTC Reportedly Wants Info From Nintendo On Call Of Duty Deal (North America)
@Res462 Disney buying Fox News would not have been illegal. If that were the case Comcast would not be able to own both NBC and MSNBC.
What is illegal is owning more than one 5 national TV network (over the airwaves). For example, one company could not own both NBC and ABC. But that was not an issue with the Disney/Fox deal because the Fox TV network was not part of the deal.
What Disney could not own that was initially part of the deal was Fox Sports because that would have given Disney a monopoly with ESPN. And that was sold off separately. That issue mainly had to do with local sports. In some regions the only competition for local sports TV viewing was Fox or ESPN. And that would have given Disney 100% of those sports markets.
Re: FTC Reportedly Wants Info From Nintendo On Call Of Duty Deal (North America)
@Wilforce I think the article left a lot of detail. The FTC is acting like this knowledge about the deal was new. Wrong. They had the info as far back as December 2022. During that December when it was actually announced publicly about the deal at which time the FTC did nothing for over 4 months (until late March) to get documents or interviews. But by that the time (a time set by FTCs own internal court) the ability to request documents and submit them to the court had exceeded.
If you remember few months back Sony was trying to get extension on MS subpoenas (this was tool to wait out the clock) At a certain point the court (judge) had set an end point for document requests/discovery and if Sony could wait out the clock, they would have had to show less documents. The judge finally cut them off and required them to turn over documents.
In this case with respect to Nintendo, the FTC thinks the dates/rules set forth by their own court (not a federal court by a court inside the FTC itself) don't apply to them only to MS and others. Well, FTC I think this judge is probably going to slap you down.