UK Charts: Mario Kart And Zelda Hang Tight As Starfield Drops Back Down To Earth

Has anyone ever met a person who owned an X-box? I seriously haven’t.
Starfield on PS5 would have outsold everything this year.

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As far as "Evergreen" titles go, MK8D is likely to stay in the top sellers until the Switch 2 comes out. Even then, I remember Mariokart Wii hanging in there long after the Wii's demise.

I wonder how orange juice weekly sales compare to GTA 5 weekly sales

@PinderSchloss Starfield in PS5 wouldn't have even outsold everything on PS5 this year...

@Wheatly it’s on gamepass and also probably digitally skewed…

@Pinderschloss I have one and see no reason to buy a ps5 (i do have a ps4 though). It’s my gamepass machine. Can’t say no to that deal in gaming, still.

@Wheatly i know and I thought that was impressive tbh. Didn’t expect that

@PinderSchloss I had the Series S but I sold it a few months ago, if you want a proper next gen experience then the S isn't it, plus the home screen is full of adverts some of which are not game related so that was quite off putting and they have the worse controller around with no Gyro and still needs batteries whilst the Dualsense is miles better and has some cool features, I'm sticking with the PS5 which is a beast and very fast, plus depending on what games you like it has all the best JRPG's, most of which don't come to xbox. Also if you're new to playstation then they have playstation plus extra which gives you hundreds of games to play, some of which are pretty recent such as FarCry 6,Ratchet and clank, Watch Dogs Legion, Horizon Forbidden West, Returnal, Demon souls etc so well worth the price especially for someone new to the system.

I dunno...maybe Microsoft's future lies away from their hardware...

As a long time Zelda fan, I'm really happy with the success they've had with BOTW and TOTK. Just beat TOTK a few weeks ago, and it was probably my favorite moment in my long, storied time as a gamer. Currently enjoying Starfield on my Series S, and I'm having a lot of fun with it. I think it's better than all the hate it's getting online. It scratches that Bethesda itch for fans of their games.

Starfield is a good game especially by Microsoft standards but it is nothing compared to tears of the kingdom

@PinderSchloss Also I doubt Starfield would of sold better than anything else this year if it was on PS5, I think games like Zelda and Hogwarts Legacy would of still done better.

But, the PS5 version of Starfield would of sold the most copies compared to Xbox and PC, and thats even if gamepass wasn't a thing.

@GrailUK Think Doug Bowser said that in 2020.

Great to see Zelda still going strong, I wonder how many total sales it's at now.

Also have to congratulate Fae Farm for making into the top 10, was not expecting that.

@FragRed Yeah, I saw the email lmao.

It's an impressive feat in the UK that has in the last decade or so, very much been a Sony and Xbox market.

@PinderSchloss I have a Series X and a PS5. It's the PS5 that I am thinking of selling at the mo.

When it comes to the Switch, the thought never crosses my mind

Fae Farm legs are very strong.

Has MK8 ever dropped completely off this list? It feels like it’s always in the top 10

its actually crazy how much ***** microsoft has been talking and yet they cant get their big bethesda rpg of the decade to stick. Cant wait for xbox to ruin gamepass for themselves somehow and be completely worthless. Lookin good, microsoft!

@Mauzuri Hard disagree at saying Xbox is a better system this gen but you are entitled to your opinion.

In terms of exclusivity, it really depends on what type of games the person likes to play. But Xbox's exclusives have been flop after flop among critics till Starfield.

Everyone's feeling the same way as I did about Starfield it seems - fun for the first few hours and then gets incredibly repetitive and boring until you don't want to play it anymore.

@Mauzuri
Whaaa???

What Xbox are you talking about?? Not the Series X that's for sure... What are these mystical exclusives you're talking about? I can think of like 2 that had any significance on the market and that's over the whole console not just this year, PS5 has a bunch.
Sure the controller is great, but the menus... is that something that quantifies a great console now, the menus? I guess on Xbox you spend a lot of time on the menus hoping they'll add some games to play...

I'm honestly not even an Xbox hater, i'm really not, I adore Forza, I like Halo, Sea of thieves is great, Game Pass is a brilliant service that I use all the time but saying they have the best console this generation is just silly

"so much more fun to play than Tears of the Kingdom. Hogwarts Legacy definitely also deserves to stay in that top 5 - absolutely one of my favourite games this year!" - Okay you're obviously fishing for rowdy replies now right? You have to be, Starfield is fine but is honestly so repetitive and a bit bland and Hogwarts was fun but was riddled with issues, like did you play any other games this year?

Each to their own I guess, enjoy your Xbox dude...

@BenAV
THIS!!
Yes! Why is it that Xbox owners only ever play casual non-gamer games like FIFA, COD, Fortnite and maybe an Assassins' Creed or two..

Final Fantasy is also falling again. The Crew Motorfest is a game I am interested in.

@Mauzuri I feel somewhat similarly, but I think Ghost of Tsushima is kind of perfect. It's a $500 game for me, I guess. I play most big third party things there. So, not much, lol. The Switch is pretty much all I play besides my portable emulators. That is until id releases something on Xbox. Then I will get one.

@Jhena XVI looks miserable to me.

@Sputnik_Corner I have always had an XBOX, but with other systems as well. I skipped the PS3, for the most part. I had a 360, a Wii, and a Vita. Besides that gen, I don't think only having an XBOX would work.

@Sputnik_Corner I played HL for like three hours. You can get through most of that by just holding up on the left joystick. I thought it was pretty boring, but my kids lived it...

@Mauzuri just curious, but do you not think Skyrim plays kind of terribly?

@LikelySatan
Do you mean the sales or the game? If it is the game what do you not like about it?

Look i have every xbox system, and four nintendo systems, and i am loving all the games i have on each.

@Mauzuri oof. K then.

@Mauzuri I’m not sure what I’m more offended by, your hatred for the wii u or saying totk is only good because Zelda is in the title 🫣🫣🫣

@Jhena the tone is very dour. They went for Game of Thrones and I guess they nailed it. It's also just garish looking imo. Like they couldn't stop guiding the lily. Looks like Godfall.

@LikelySatan
True. Also not a fan of misery stuff, like Game Of Thrones.

@PinderSchloss What a strange post.

The 360 sold 84 million, the Xbox One around 60 million, and the Xbox Series consoles over 20 million. So yeah, quite a few people have Xboxes

I have a SeriesX and love it. Even though I have a good gaming PC and a Switch I tend to gravitate towards the SeriesX as my main gaming machine for a variety of reasons - it's convenient, fast, powerful, and quick resume is amazing I use it all the time to switch between games with no loading, and resume in the exact spot you were playing before. Basically like a Save State in emulators.

For me, GamePass and Quick Resume puts the SeriesX far above the PS5.

Starfield is...okay? I'm playing it and not addicted to it. Think part of the problem is playing this immediately after BG3. I cared about almost all of the BG3 characters. Starfield has annoyingly bland characters. I knew all the hype there was no way it could live up to it. If you can get it cheap one day, worth a play. I wouldn't pay AAA prices for it, if I had to do it over.

@Jhena yeah man, lol. I work at a homeless shelter and read a ton of nonfiction. My entertainment is usually fun-focused.

@tseliot I love hearing impressions from people who have played both. I need to go get BG3. Next payday maybe.

Starfield got the No Man's Sky treatment. A lot of empty promises about this infinite world with countless possibilities when in reality... it's a Bethesda open world game with all the usual trappings and scuff. Todd Howard really fueled that hype train.

To be fair there isn't much incentive to buy physically on Xbox or PlayStation anymore (there's usually huge patches to download and then you even have to change discs between games).

Starfield is "free" on Game Pass, so it's probably only a select few "physical lovers" that bought it on day one, and now that they've gotten their copy, there's not much interest in the physical edition anymore.

Starfield is still very interesting to me as I've only put in like 30-ish hours and 1/2 of that was just spent messing with ship building configuration. I intend to spend a lot more time with it as it is very much Skyrim in space.

If they would just allow us to place doors and ladders wherever we want, the game will be nearly perfect.

@Mauzuri
Skyrim isn’t an Xbox exclusive though…

Also I really don’t understand how you can criticise modern open world games, which btw I hate them too, and then praise Hogwarts legacy in the same breath. Is it just cause you love Harry potter because that’s not a great reason. The game is just as generic and bland as Horizon.
TOTK has issues for sure but it’s creative flair and daring to be different is what makes it stand out, nothing to do with it being a Zelda in fact it really doesn’t resemble other Zelda games in many ways at all.
Also, how you gonna be seriously asking for more Knack?!? Two of the worst games to come from the PlayStation in recent history.
Sony really only have 3 open world game franchises; horizon, Spider-Man, ghost of Tsushima, all very different from one another but that really sells short the massive list of exclusives on the platform.
Uncharted and the last of us are linear character driven adventure style games, God of war is a modern take on hack and slash games with an adventure/rpg coat of paint, you have FromSoftware with Demon’s Souls, 3D platformers like sackboy and ratchet, roguelike returnal, experimental stuff like ghostwire and death stranding, you’ve got racing sims in gran turismo, some of the best JRPGs coming from final fantasy
Not to mention upcoming projects like pacific drive, little devil inside, silent hill, wolverine, kotor, sword of the sea

There’s so many reasons to invest in PS5, but XBOX just don’t have that, and don’t take my word for it just look at the sales figures, over 40 million ps5s sold vs 21 million Xbox’s, that alone should tell you what people are more excited for…

@Mauzuri
people don’t just hate things because they like to hate things…
They hate them because they hate them… there’s no vendetta against Xbox, I praise them when they do good stuff, I would love for us to have three incredible big players in the gaming space, the sad thing is Xbox just aren’t living to the same standards as Sony and Nintendo this generation.
Go back to the 360 days and you were hard pressed to find anyone without a 360, it was an AMAZING console and yet slow releases, poor exclusives and bad hardware decisions has lead to people losing interest in Xbox it’s as simple as that. it happened with Nintendo during Wii U days, I have every Nintendo console to date, I’m about as big a fan with my budget can get and even I didn’t buy a Wii U, there’s no agenda with these companies, we owe them nothing. When they do bad stuff we don’t like them, when they do good stuff we support them, that’s how it’s always worked.

@Raffles
We over hear talking about games making systems awesome and you’re bringing up quick resume as a reason Xbox is better? Like sure that’s an amazing feature, it’s super handy and convenient and I’m honestly quite miffed my ps5 doesn’t have that feature but I don’t buy a console for the colour or the UI, the features or the specs, I buy it for the games, I buy a switch not because it has an IR reader or a kickstand but because it has Mario stinkin’ Odyssey on it, I buy my ps5 not because it has rumbly triggers but because I can’t spend another day not playing Spider-Man, ya know? I feel like if the best thing you can say about a console is the menus or the quick resume then the console really isn’t that great.

Again I don’t hate Xbox, game pass is an absolutely fantastic consumer-first service that I use constantly, Forza horizon 5 is the best racing game ever made in my opinion, but there is no denying that Xbox has been slow this generation.

@PinderSchloss I have one, but after those leaks, I'm considering jumping to PS5.

@Sputnik_Corner Big Playstation fan, are we?

@Astral-Grain
Tbh not really 😂 I love my PS5 but I don’t play it that much, I don’t play most of the big games on the system I just think some of the views in here about current Xbox got me all riled up

I own all three consoles (plus a Steam Deck) - the Xbox Series X is my least played of this generation by a significant margin, but it's still a great system. I admittedly mainly bought it for Obsidian and Bethesda (+ subsidiary studios*), since most other Xbox "exclusives" aren't really to my taste.

I'm planning to jump into Starfield as soon as I finish Baldur's Gate. I'm not expecting anything groundbreaking based on what I've read and heard from friends, but... I'm a sucker for the Bethesda formula, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy the experience anyways.

*I'm still bummed by how Redfall turned out, since Arkane is one of my favorite developers. Here's hoping their next venture is a return to form.

@Raffles @Mauzuri

Re-reading my comments I think I come off a little overheated, I truly hope you guys don’t take my words personally. I think this is a really interesting topic and I have a lot of strong opinions and of course you all are entitled to yours too, it’s really interesting hearing other people’s takes on stuff like this, hope we can keep up the discourse

@PinderSchloss Sure. Couple of my friends like Western games and play on Xbox. They like Gamepass too.

I have not seen anyone else on a PS5 on the flipside. They are either still on PS4 due to lack of reason to upgrade or they play on Switch/PC.

@Sputnik_Corner What “bunch” of PS5 exclusives are you talking about? There are barely any of significant note and it only took only recently for like a couple more to drop. Look up the “PS5 exclusive” wiki page and it’s pitifully small list even when it includes games not out yet.

Keep in mind if it’s something I can play on PC or PS4 then it’s not a “PS5 exclusive”. To each their own. Enjoy your PS5 dude.

Mine collected dust in comparison besides briefly playing FF XVI (which didn’t feel like a FF game at all so not surprised that game never took off either if we are talking about Starfield not taking off) before getting dust again.

@Sputnik_Corner It's one of many examples of why I like the machine. Obviously I like the exclusives too, IMO it's actually Forza Horizon 4 that's the best driving game ever.

Is quick resume the main reason I like the SeriesX? Of course not But it's certainly a plus point and something unique that even a PC can't do. So with all other things being equal, it's a great reason to fire up the SeriesX instead of the PC or Switch or any Playstation, as I can just jump right into whatever recent game takes my fancy, halfway through a level or mission. It's extremely convenient and the ultimate QOL feature, especially given that I'm very busy with work and don't get much gaming time atm.

One thing I forgot to mention is backwards compatibility. That is amazing on the SeriesX too, seeing games like Sonic Generations retroactively enhanced, running at 4k60 is a sight to behold.

I find it odd that the people saying “PS5 has no exclusives” don’t mention Returnal.

It’s on PC but it is a console exclusive. And it’s my game of the generation so far. Although RE4 Remake (which I’m playing now) may actually dethrone it.

@Arawn93

Series X has the same problem. A lack of proper current generation exclusives.

But then again exclusivity is a dying thing anyway. Almost everything (sans Nintendo) comes out on PC these days. And with lower powered devices like Steam Deck becoming mainstream (meaning developers have to pay attention and optimize for them) only means that software will ultimately never take full advantage of all the hardware we have available. Which I’m fine with.

I love my PS5 and I’ve had some great experiences on it. I’m sure Xbox players feel the same too. Both consoles have great games.

The fact that the legendary shovelware that was Cocomelon: Play With JJ made it to the top 30 above Shredder's Revenge, Final Fantasy XVI, Dark Souls Trilogy, and the Resident Evil 4 remake is very impressive.

@Mauzuri "It's a fantastic system and quite frankly better than the PS5 in terms of exclusives, controller and - yes - menus."

I own an xbox and I completely disagree with you. I don't like their controller, and their menus are terrible, especially with the ads on the screen, blocking your background art. They did make the icons a bit smaller, but still the ads haven't changed. I don't have a PS5, so I don't know what theirs looks like. But I did have a PS4 and I liked the home menu on there. I have a PS5 controller that I use on PC and it's very nice and comfortable. Xbox controller doesn't work sometimes or sometimes double presses. I've replaced the controller, but still have same issue.

Also Xbox doesn't allow direct to YouTube uploads of your game clips. You need an external storage to record anything more than 30 seconds and then you need a pc to upload it to YouTube. On PS4, it was much more simple.

@CutchuSlow The PS5 has the most miserable and depressing UI ever to be foisted on a console owner.
After the sheer brilliance of the PS4, one would have thought that Sony would've added folders, themes and long-presses of the PS button as day 1 features but instead we have to put up with the dreary, confusing, button mashing mess.

@LikelySatan 100%. Ironically, that type of game is what got me into heavy gaming. I still have fond memories of dumping hours playing RPG isometric PC games in the '90s.

@Mauzuri you know what dude, you have extremely different views to me but fair play, you’re clearly here for a constructive chat where others would turn to aggression instead of justifying them and I think that’s cool. I will let bygones be bygones haha.

@sanderson72 oh I see lol. That sounds terrible.

@Mauzuri the ads bother me, but not only that. I have too many issues with mine. So that's why I put my xbox away in its box. And switched to PC gaming now. I have a switch as well, coz I like handheld gaming.

@puddinggirl Xbox studios have delivered quality and quantity in a wide diversity of genres since the beginning of this gen (and even won the publisher of the year award in 2021) :

Age of Empires 4 (81)
Flight Sim (91)
Forza Horizon 5 (92)
Pentiment (86)
Halo Infinite (87)
Psychonauts 2 (87) (not exclusive)
Starfield (87)
Gears Tactic (80)
Deathloop (88) (not exclusive)
As Dusk Falls (77)
Ghostwire Tokyo (75) (not exclusive)

People only remember Redfall, which is a little bit unfair.

Also, Sea of Thieves and Grounded, two multiplayer games by xbox studios, are amazing and incredibly underrated, Grounded is the best survival game out there imho, and SoT is Rare's biggest success ever.

When people say "xbox has no games" what they really mean is "xbox has no Sony-Like AAA solo-narrative adventure games"